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To those rejoicing over the news that Asik is staying...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Swishh, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. dje243

    dje243 Member

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    Situational Twin-Towers is definitely something we will need to utilize from time to time... like in Portland. Definitely could have used it then. He signed a contract to play for 3 years. Personally I wouldn't be upset if played the whole 3.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    I can live with Asik staying for the moment.... but Morey has got to shore up the bench.

    Garcia, Brewer, Smith and possibly Brooks who has had some good and bad games are not getting it done.
    Covington and Canaan are basically developing and two roster spots are unused for this year.
    That's five roster spots in question.
    A contender like the Spurs would make better use of their roster spots if you want to go deep into the playoffs.
     
  3. daywalker02

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    Plus Motiejunas whom I forgot
     
  4. Remii

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    Unlike Royce _ when Asik is healthy enough he will play. Even though he wanted to be traded he still had some good games and closed out 4th quarters while Howard was on the bench. If he acts too much like a biish that could possibly effect the amount of the contracts he gets offered when he becomes a free agent.

    I don't like the way he's been handling the situation but I'm not too hard on Asik because I haven't forgotten how important he was to this team last year. He was a one man show on defense _ literally, and he would have to battle in the frontcourt with Delfino playing the 4 on many of night.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    We can't do that now. He was previously treated like Dwight Howard.
     
  6. yummyhawtsauce

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    hey so asik can't be traded no longer until feb now?
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    No he can, you can't trade a player AFTER Feb.

    I think they can't trade the player they traded for after tomorrow is the case.
     
  8. yummyhawtsauce

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    Oh ok I get it. Because the whole deadline thing confused me...thanks.
     
  9. WinkFan

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    It does no good to make a trade that makes the team worse.
     
  10. Verdad

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    Asik doesn't want to play here. It's not hard to understand.
     
  11. monster

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    Yuuuuup!
     
  12. cw3k

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    The Rockets is not a contender. Best is a second round exist, but most likely the first. There is no team in the history of the NBA where selfish isolation can win against a team basketball. Until the stars learn to play team basketball, the Rockets will not be a title contender.
     
  13. psingh34

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    first of all writing in all caps does not make your point any more valid

    secondly that same no good asik who wont give it his all on the court supposedly was the reason rockets beat portland in portland bc he locked down alderidge... what did we do minus asik??? alderidge abused us all game long. Having bass or lee would not have changed that, quite possibly having millsap would not have changed that. So yah I am excited bc asik provides something that no player we would get back provides. In any trade scenario we were going to be giving up the best player so its not the end of the world that he is still here.
     
  14. psingh34

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    what seperates selfish isolations from selfless isolations? Last time I checked our selfish isolation guy was averaging close to 6 assists a game and averages 16.7 shots which is 15th in the nba (thats our leading shot taker) He is also second in the nba among shooting guards in assists .02 behind dragic who has spend a lot of time at the point.

    also we are 2nd in the league as a team in assists per game ... how selfish!!!

    also i thought the lakers triangle was primary designed to give shaq and kobe room to operate so that they could get their shots... i thought the rockets basically ran post isolations with hakeem and had people around him ready to shoot once double team came...heck do the head run complex offensive sets or do they do a good job of spacing for lebron and wade?

    here are teams with awesome offensive sets
    Any team coached by adelman: rockets, kings, blazers (no one won a championship)

    utah jazz
     
  15. cw3k

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    Assist stat is an useless stats. It does not distinguish someone who pass out to an open man or someone who pass out to another player because the passer cannot get the shoot off with less than 3 seconds to go.

    In the triangle offense, yes 2 players (shaq/kobe, jordan/pippen) got most of the touch, but there are ball movement. No one is camping in the corner.

    If you have watch other teams: Heats, Pacers, Spurs and Blazers, you will see ball movement is key. The one who shooting the ball is the one who is open and has the highest probably of scoring. But what about Rocket? Whoever get the ball to half court, hand it over to Harden then Heroball. Howard demands for the ball, hand it to Howard. No ball movement, no screen whatsoever. The other 3 role players just standing in the corner.
     
  16. nachbarFTW

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    I'd rather have an apathetic Asik then any other backup center in the league.
     
  17. psingh34

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    wait a minute.. an assist is a basket scored as a result of a pass.. ofcourse that is useful stat.. rockets are not jacking up shots with 3 seconds left and making them, these assists for a large part are coming as a result of lobs, fast break passes, kick outs for open 3s. Ofcourse just ignoring stats that disprove your point is convienient.

    we are third in the league in field goals resulting from assists, only SA and miami does it better. That means that we are third in the league in making fg resulting directly from someone making a pass. 53 percent of our fg made are as a result of a assist.
     
  18. ItalianRocket

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    Lol at People Saying he will be happy,He still wants out.He has Arn Tellem äs his Agent and he will help Morey to get a good deal,but they probably told him to Act happy and to bring his full effort so his value rises a Bit.
     
  19. bws

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    I partially agree with you. At times Houston's ball movement is lacking and there's too much one-on-on playing or not enough guys are involved. But the last game of Harden's showed when Harden is best. A lot of people seem to get off when someone scores a lot of point but I feel the best games of Harden, Parsons or Lin are not the 30 plus points, but more rounded games where they elevate their team mates. Harden did that the past game and both Parsons and Lin can do that. I totally am against the Harden-ball superstar thing that some posters seem to promote.

    There is more ball movement in other teams. I've noticed that and Houston needs more in general. Harden can get too many assists at the expense of others as we've seen Parsons, Jones, Lin also get high assists so they are capable too of providing them. Beverley can get some too and Brooks when he's in.

    But we have to appreciate our own players more. Look at the stat lines from GSW yesterday.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20131219/SASGSW/gameinfo.html?ls=slt

    Thompson 40 minutes, Curry 40 minutes, Curry took 28 shots and didn't get to the foul line once? Can you imagine a game Harden or Lin takes that many shots and don't get to the foul line? Despite the 32 from Lee, 30 from Kerry and Thompson points, they lossed the game. And the Spurs didn't have Duncan, Parker or Ginobili. So looking at a lot of points and assists, 32/15 for Curry, if there was more balanced scoring and team involvement and a few more stops, GSW wins. And only Lee had an efficient scoring game who scored more than 20. Big points and numbers don't always lead to team wins. Also, look at the minutes distribution of Pop vs. Mark Jackson. Pop is a great coach and isn't running his guys down.
     
  20. psingh34

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    to be fair though duncan played about 39 min a game until his 8th season in the league
     

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