Could Motiejunas and Jones both move out of the rotation?

There is a percentage of newly formed teams that went to the Finals.....
I only recall Miami going straight to the Finals and lose in their first year.

We are way behind Miami. You are just hoping for the impossible.
The only guys that would make us an instant favorite to win it are Lebron and Durant. Not even George.
Lebron is the guy with the best winning possibility. We won't get him or Durant.

 

Last 10 games for Jones:

36/86 from the field for 41.86%
4/21 from the 3-point line for 19.05%
11/22 from the FT line for 50%
7.7 rebounds per game
1.4 blocks per game

Now down to 33% from 3 and 61% from the FT line for the season and falling like a rock. Defensively he's in the dumper as well getting totally blasted by power bigs just busting him up at the rim.

Thoughts?

 

Yes let me give you my thoughts so you can regurgitate your arguments against Jones once again.

Like how you left out that he had 6 assists last night, and really did a great job of breaking down the defense on some nice dribble penetration & passing off the dribble.

Has really lost confidence in his shot. First 6 games he shot really well, and needs to regain what has gotten undone. Still needs to work on helping the helper, but Noah is a beast to every team on the offensive glass. He's still only a second year player with a lot of work to do, but the talent is there.

Give it a break BHollic. Jones is the guy for some time. You aren't the GM anywhere besides inside BHollic fantasy land.

No Bass for you!!

 

Don't want Bass. Can't stand Bass' game. But if Jones is our guy we're not going very far in the playoffs. He's not ready. He's not ready. He's not ready.

 

I guess in 5.5 months we will find out if he's improved and ready, or if there is someone else better they have acquired.

I know the guys you want, but obviously they weren't available. Morey trolled hard to try and snag Millsap with no luck, and talks went nowhere with other teams as reported. Right now best case scenario is for Jones to just improve.

 

It would be simply great for this team if Jones improved. But banking on that improvement when we are chasing a ring is not the best strategy.

 

jones needs to stop shooting 3's above the break

 

Why do you think Morey was trying so damn hard to get Millsap and was even contemplating trading for stinky old Bass? I dont think they are banking on anything which is why they will probably still look to upgrade at some point between now and the deadline.

Wouldn't be shocked if they try and snag 2Pat back from Toronto for next to nothing. Ujiri obviously isn't going to resign him so I wouldn't be shocked if he'd let him go for a 2nd rounder or euro prospect. Would be a good time to cash in on Sergio Llull seeing as though Toronto might look at PG options this Summer and contemplate having him as an option.

2Pat would be a solid floor spacing 4 that could be a placeholder for the rest of the season going into the playoffs on an expiring contract. Maybe not just 2Pat, but someone like that on a bargain deal that expires this year. Just an example.

Still.... regardless of the help they bring, it doesn't mean that Jones is going to get thrown in the garbage can just cause you think he sucks. He looks to have alot of the tools you need to be an above average player in this league... just needs to work on getting a consistent jump shot, and work on his defense a little more like most 2nd year players who came into the NBA early.

 

Jones has stopped shooting 3's period. He doesn't want to shoot them. The 3-point shots he gets up are because the defense fades off and leaves him holding the ball while fading into the passing lanes. They are flat daring him to shoot it. He'll look around, pause, shot fake with no response, and then finally he'll try to square up and aim the thing and shoot it. And the longer he takes, the more time he spends trying to line up that shot, the worse it is.

I told you a month or so now when they put him in the starting lineup that once he had been around the league a little bit and teams got their scouts on him that this would happen. I told you defenses would start fading off him and not giving him the drive and dare him to shoot it.

Terrence Jones has problems with his shooting mechanics and as a result he's got extreme confidence issues with his shot that compounds the issue. You can tell when he shoots it he has no confidence that it's gonna go down.

It's unfortunate but that's the facts for now. TJones has to shoot the 3-ball effectively to help this team and to make himself something special in this league. Otherwise he's just another athletic body running up and down the floor not making a difference.

 

I love tjones...but I always wonder why he gets to fail so much while dmo gets benched for all his little mistakes.

Granted, jones has been really good at times, but we've seen dmo play well too. And dmo rarely gets the added benefit if playing pf next to Dwight which is something I think would work very well.

We've seen what happens when jones is at pf or center without Dwight in the game. He's not the same player.

 

I'm afraid if DMo were in there instead of Jones, you'd see the same poor shooting only a lot more of it because DMo doesn't pass up on shots and you'd see even worse defense.

 

I disagree with that.

I think dmo's bad defense is being overstated.

I'm not saying dmo is better than jones. What I'm saying is that I don't think jones is so far and beyond dmo that one should get steady minutes and the other should rot on the bench. Same for Greg smith.

 

Well right now DMo's bad D in relationship to TJones is probably about the same. The last few games Jones has been toasted.

There's just no incentive to switch horses right now to DMo. He hasn't shown anything when he's been in there and he hasn't shown anything in games. There was a few games where Jones did show something. Although that has since faded to nothing. So the incentive is to play Jones right now and see if he can find "it" again. I don't think he will because I think I know what Jones is and what his ceiling is.

But I also don't think DMo would represent anything different besides more shots being taken by him and missed that could be taken by Harden and others.

The bottom line with the 4th and 5th guys on our starting unit is they gotta hit shots to be productive to this team...not take and miss them and not not take them at all and force the other guys to take bad shots. The 4th and 5th starters on this team need to be able to take the shot and hit it consistently. Neither Jones nor DMo is capable of doing that.

 

There's 56 more games to go till the playoffs, enjoy. LOL

 

I'm gonna tell you what. If TJones keeps throwing up those clunker shots that crack the paint on the rim there ain't none of us gonna be enjoying him in a few more games. Hopefully he turns it around. But I doubt it.

 

7ft is still 7ft as far as defense goes. I think with Dwight dmo could at least be on par with what jones has been these past few games.

On offense, I think dmo has the potential to be much better than jones there. He's serviceable in the post, and I'd say he has the better potential to become a medium range/3pt shooter.

Again, I'm not saying dmo is a beast or should even start over jones. I just don't see jones as being the far superior player even at this point.

 

He's not.

Neither player is rotation-worthy on a championship team.

 

For a person that has the screen name of basketballholic you make some questionable post.

I'm not saying he is but until he gets some real consistent playing time nobody can say what Dmo is. He hasn't been given a chance yet this year.

In fact both players could be rotation-worthy players on a championship team.

You need to go back and look into the Rockets history and find out about "Carl Herrera"

 

And Otis Thorpe, and Rajon Rondo, and Dennis Rodman, and Pau Gasol, etc etc.

Lots of players have contributed heavily to championship teams who haven't been adequate shooters.

 

Open Memo to Terrence Jones,

Don't play with the flu during the regular season unless you want to be ridiculed on Clutchfans. It can make a bad stretch of games look absolutely abysmal.