Omer Asik Trade. Rumors, Tweets and Updates. (Deadline Dec 20th)

Wait till Feb, when we do all of this another time

Hey, Morey doing Morey things. Time to teach Asik to shoot and tell him we're going to up his value.

 

Post defense is far from the best aspect of Asik's defense. He is one of the very best all-around defenders at center there is. There aren't many centers who can defend the basket, the screenplay, and out to the perimeter the way Asik can. He is much quicker than his awkward movement suggests. Who are these centers with range you speak of, and how many centers do you think defend them better than Asik does? LOL.

Naturally, there is always super-smallball, considering that McHale's disciple and happy fun friend Dwane Casey was playing Steve Novak at center for stretches. Even then, how many non-tweener centers actually guards faster rangier players even remotely as well as Asik does? Very very very very few of them. I'll tell you that. Be stretching it far to need a second hand of fingers to count them.

Sure, if I was up against Steve Novak at center, Paul Milsap might defend him a little better than than Omer Asik would, but I'm not from McHale/Casey school of matchups and I rather make them adjust to me by eating Novak up in the post and on the boards than trying to guard him a little better playing Carlos Delfino at center.

Like I said, Asik is actually underrated around here, for the most part.

 

I'm actually a little surprised that Asik isn't more polarizing. He has much in common with Shane Battier, who was probably the most polarizing Rocket in ClutchFans history, in terms of creating truly dedicated fans and haters.

I guess people are just more comfortable with hustle players at the center position?

 

He was blocking shots at a pretty high rate before he got to Houston. You forgot the part where he got to HOU and they asked him to stay solid and not chase blocks. T-Jones is a good blocker, but I consider him a below-average defender overall (many would no doubt disagree here, but they would also...be wrong ).

 

So?

Half the bigs in the league either fail to set screens or set half assed screens. It requires size and hustle to set a good screen, something that is rare from a center.

The advanced metrics demonstrate how he is a better rim protector than most other 7 footers. If you really think being 7 foot tall is all it takes to protect the paint and rim, then there is nothing I can say to you.

How do you define "top flight"? He is better than most starting centers in the NBA. He is not a top 5 center, but I do not know if anyone is claiming that he is. Defensively he is elite, but he is very mediocre offensively.

 

We'll it sort of makes rockets look bad. Considering they made a date and didn't follow through but at the same time a wise move not to accept trash for asik. I would keep my eyes peeled though, this could possiabley be a tactic for Morey. For example let's say sixers or celtics aren't giving what we want and instead of giving in wre just like ok screw y'all bye and it sort of puts us as the ring leader saying were not putting up with bullshet. Obviously Morey wants what he wants and he's not taking any less. Sort of loses his credabilitu about the date but sort of makes him look like a bad ass. Let's watch today and tommrrow n see if anything happens

 

I think you are right on the money here.

I've been thinking Lakers for a while.

Why this makes sense...

1) Lin would be an asset for the Lakers with their fan base and international appeal. He would be reunited with MDA and maybe bring some excitement and show time back to their play.

2) Asik offers a foundational center. A piece they could not easily acquire through the draft or free agency this year.

3) Kaman showed surprising early season form before being injured. Would fit the rox system as he can also shoot. I think a good solid back-up for Dwight.

4) Gasol will plug the hole at PF and is a perfect fit for rox style of play again as he can shoot from outside but also has great post moves. Would provide veteran leadership. He is on an expiring contract which offers the rox flexibility.

Not sure if the salaries work but it's close.

Make it happen Morey!

 

Marc Stein

http://espn.go.com/boston/

 

You forgot to switch out to your other account.

 

I think the only think to truly hate about Asik is his attitude about coming off of the bench. He is a good center, but he's not Dwight Howard. Other than that, I have no problem with Asik. I will even root for him (as long as he isn't playing against us) no matter where he ends up.

 

how many centers can shoot effectively from long range... i did say centers btw not powerforwards

 

When people want Lin moved to another team just because "he's not being utilized correctly", it's more likely a sign he's a LOF. It isn't Mchale's fault Bev's a better 3 pt shooter than him, it's up to Lin to prove otherwise.

1) Rox are certainly considered closer to contenders than Charlotte, NO, Boston and Cleveland, all the teams mentioned as possible Asik trade targets.

2) Yes they get paid regardless so why move to a worse team?

3) Asik's already making 8M a year, how much of pay increase is he expecting? Even if he played 30 or 40 mins a game it's not like somebody will offer him 15M a year. What kind of effect do you think sulking and making trade demands will have on his market value, no one like a whiny b****, esp. someone who's not even a superstar.

In fact if you want to maximize your future earnings, playing a big role in a contending team does more for your career than playing 30-45 mins in a bad team because you get national exposure and name recognition. Tyson Chandler's had a higher market value after he started on the Dallas championship team even if he shared time with Haywood than when he was all alone in NO....was only able to secure a 10M contract after he played in NO but got a 15M contract after he played in Dallas.

Instead of calling me names maybe you're the one who should think about these concepts more.

 

lulz.

 

Boston has a Center who can shoot 3's Vitor Faverani a 25 year old rookie. lol

 

I think he knows he's not dwight howard. I don't think he had an attitude coming off the bench or that he's not the starter for the rockets. He has a. Attitude because he's not starting and knows many teams would have him as the startling center. He wants to play and now I can how it can get aggrviating. One night he gets 24 mins the next he gets 8. On top of not starting he doesn't even get consistent minutes. He's just mad because he's upset it didn't workout with the rockets as him being the starting center. I bet in the offseason he was hoping we landed Chris Paul or josh smith.

 

lol, I had to do a triple take on that one.

 

Lmao!!

 

I feel the inconsistent minutes thing. McHale's rotations drive me mad!

 

You dont see anyone claiming him to be a top 5 center? Please re-read the last 250 pages of this thread.

He's a top 12 or so center in the league...but people want to get a return on him that equates him to being a top 3 center. It's just not going to happen.