Omer Asik Trade. Rumors, Tweets and Updates. (Deadline Dec 20th)

Dwight says Omer has to be willing to make a sacrifice but he's going to be a big part of the team and they need him. So the team is talking like there's no trade that's going to happen.

 

Asik is considered one of the best post and PNR defenders in the NBA

Isn't athletic enough? Go look at his past scouting reports. PNR defense requires you to be athletic. Weak side defender? You mean a shot blocker?

 

AWESOME!!! :grin:

Perhaps I should change my name to HeisenBima!

 

Well, his post defense is what makes him a good rebounder, because he plays the post well and can block out his man.

He doesnt nothing differently around the rim (as a rim protector) that any 7 footer couldnt do...he's tall. His low block numbers highlight how unathletic and slow he actually is, because any rim protecter, specially at 7 feet, should be getting much better disruption around the rim.

He can screen well...I think anyone that is 7 foot can screen well, it's just a matter of having a huge guy having to screen a guard. It's not like you do anything other than stand there when setting a screen. Anyone with that size is considered a good screen setter.

As far as pick and roll defense, he's not good if his man can shoot the midrange shot. He is intelligent in how to defend the pick and roll, but he's not athletic enough to step up and guard a center that has range on the shot.

 

McHale said exactly what he is supposed to say as a head coach. He needs to fight for his guys and wants them to want to play hard for him.

 

Please make this happen! HeisenBima is the one who knocks, he is the danger!

Tread lightly, Clutch.

 

Chadler Bang says it's great having Omer there, it's great to have the luxury of having two of the best big men in the game, and the team wanted him not to be moved.

 

As mentioned, Asik is not a good PNR defender against centers that can shoot. No, he's absolutely not athletic enough...compare him to the top 10 centers in the game and he's lagging way behind in terms of athleticism, explosiveness, and quickness. Yes, weak side defending is not an area of strength for Asik, he's not quick enough to get over to help...and that is partly to blame for his weak block numbers. You need explosiveness and athleticism to get blocks...he lacks in that area.

 

I don't care if having wings make him a good rebounder, the point is that he is a good rebounder. I would argue that he is better than "good" at rebounding but that is getting into semantics.

No, he is a very good rim protector, there is no real debating that. It is his most important skill.

He is a good screen setter because he is willing to do it, most 7'0"s are not.

Yes, he has physical limitations but not to the extent you seem to believe.

 

Morey plays by none ones rules. He makes rules like that protected Toronto pick

 

I think it is safe to say he will be shopped again come February.

Fringe playoff teams will definitely be looking for his services. Dallas would love to have him, but duck fallas and they have nothing to offer of any value.

 

That said, the fact he doesn't try to block shots means he is still clogging up space and is usually in better position for defensive rebounding. Howard protects the rim and blocks shots way better, but that also takes him away from the defensive boards, and since Jones is either also trying to block shots, or doesnt help out as well, opposing teams score a lot on weak side or follow ups.

 

A large party of why Morey is good is because he is creative. He comes at problems from angles that most other GM's do not consider. This facet of his personality is often overlooked. From his reliance on analitics years ago, to the poison pill deals for Lin and Asik, to the IPOD recruitment of Bosh, to the Lowry deal for a limited protected pick to the selection of foreign players to stash overseas.

 

easy there tiger, ive got a chill pill with your name on it, you should really take it

 

Asik is one of the best defensive centers in the league . I only agree that he's not a good shot blocker . But his paint protection , rebounding and boxing skills and pnr defense are elite . Plus I really think that his 1-1 defense is better than howard's . ( Don't you remember how he defended duncan on 1-1 ? )

I can also argue that his screens on offense are much better than D12 .

Rockets management should traded him in summer when his value picked ( he had double double averages and good reputation than now ) He could easily be a starter on half of nba teams . Harden trade ,D12 and omer initial signing were huge moves by morey , but he made a huge mistake with omer situation...

 

We must be one of the top 5 or 6 teams in the league that completely botch things up whenever it comes to trades. Honestly, Lowry and both Asik need to man up and understand it's a business, but then I'd also like for unicorns and leprechauns to be a real thing. From the front office down, the "players are nothing more than stats" attitude permeates the entire organization. How can you seriously ask a guy to give his all and sacrifice his body when you project this kind of disdain for players so publicly?

It's great for us fans and armchair GMs, but then things get effed up and we wonder why our chemistry sucks.

 

I watch a bunch of games with Bobby Sura...let me just say that he agrees more with what my line of thinking than most on here. What 7 footer isnt willing to set a screen? Ive never heard a player not do that. How is he more of a rim protector than any other 7 footer? And yes, Asik is a good rebounder for sure, Ive never said otherwise...he's good at boxing his guy out. I think his numbers were a little inflated last year bc the Rockets had no other players that had the ability to rebound. But, I still believe he is a good rebounder. Im not saying Asik sucks...Im saying he's not a top flight NBA center. I dont think he cracks the top 10 in the NBA. Maybe if you are purely discussing defense, but there are better defenders and better overall centers.

 

Blah blah blah the Rockets under Morey have done very well in trades. As far as Lowry is concerned, Morey waited until he got what he wanted, and that draft pick was crucial in getting James Howard.

As far as the players being "nothing more than assets", they had no problem getting Howard, Asik and Lin to sign with the Rockets. Also, players are assets to EVERY team in the NBA and players know it. There is no "disdain" for players.

As far as "chemistry" and "disdain" are concerned, are you still paying your employees minimum wage?

 

People should be more grateful for what Asik did last season, and be more understanding, give some love. It is normal for players wanting the best for their career. You just don't always see players like Lin who absorbs everything asked of him. I hope I am not going to be labeled and attacked by mentioning Lin. I hope most of people do appreciate.