Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

but the difference is that LBJ is a team player that is willing give up stats for the betterment of the team. KObe for years always thought that he was unstoppable and could never trust his team-mates to make the shots. Melo got the same mentality as Kobe and look what the KNicks are doing, just terrible.

Also Kobe when he won those two rings, which is impressive had a great supporting cast with Artest, and Odom being defensive stalwarts and Bynum who was very good young center in the hay days. He had plenty of very good players around him. Miami is basically LBJ, Wade, and Bosh with 3 point shooters and Chris ANderson as the energy guy. No way as deep as the Lakers when Kobe won the championships IMO

 

True, it is LBJ's team. But LBJ seems to never flout his status at least publicly to whether he is top dog or not on the Heat. But yes, Wade did give up the captain role to LBJ.

I'm not sure if Harden can handle being the leader or captain. I definitely think that someone with more experience and a bigger resume like HOward would probably take the mantle of the team leader. Maybe not this year, but certainly next year

 

J Lin to the Bulls?

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/530706/20131217/jeremy-lin-houston-rockets.htm#.UrCRrvt3cXV

I like it for the present, but not the future when D Rose comes back.

 

Not at all. In fact, it's really the other way around. So many anti-Lin folks that don't want to be proven wrong want him to stay on the bench so they can "be right" rather than have us put forth our best starting 5 on the floor every night.

If Lin were shooting like Bev then it would be a different story. But he's improved his shooting, decreased his turnovers, stepped up his D and done everything people to improve in the areas people were criticizing him for.

Tell me during the Portland or Sac game that you weren't cringing every time Bev took a shot.

Bev is the energy guy- thus he should be the spark plug. But you guys can't see it b/c you would take anyone in the starting lineup as long as it kept Lin on the bench. That's evidenced by the posters on here saying we should trade for Felton (Pathetic) or sign Mike James (ludicrous) or whatever other scrub you guys want substitute in the blank.

If anyone suggested bringing in Parsons off the bench b/c our second unit needs scoring and a playmaker, they would be laughed off this board. It's simple- you start your best players and give them the most minutes.

 

They showed what Lin's arms look like after the game and he looks like he's been in a cat fight with all the bruises and scratches. Plus you saw the unicorn horn he had on his head. Harden just flops and gets calls all the time (which is a good thing) but Lin doesn't get nearly the same calls.

 

LBJ is elite, he's on his own planet. Wade, by all accounts is a superstar, one of the best 15 or so in the game for years. LBJ doesn't play sticky ball and his playmaking is elite as is his defense. He's a phenomenal player.

 

I don't think that Harden is selfish. I think he has a hard time trusting the rest of the team, especially Lin. If there are 5 sec left on the clock he only passes it if he is really covered or doubled. At the end of the quarter, half, game, he is always taking the shot if he has the ball on the possession. There's nothing wrong with that except for when he is either ice cold and still thinks he should be shooting it or when he is covered so well that he is forcing it. Those are the times he needs to trust his support team.

 

He flip flops with Parsons for 3rd best player for sure, and did last season as well.

 

True, but they have an all-star 3 point shooter and player in Ray Allen. Birdman is a great energy guy, on both sides of the floor.

 

I agree. I think that's what Dwight is really calling Harden out for- not just the D. And Harden saying people need to buy into the system seems to me like he doesn't want to give up the ball any or share anymore.

Harden does get assists but like another poster said on here, most of his assists are where he passes the ball with 5 sec left to someone standing on the wing and they happen to hit a shot and he gets the assist. It's usually not from him driving to the basket or moving and making a sharp pass. If he is driving to the hoop, he is going to shoot it or get try to get fouled.

 

That's not entirely fair to Harden. He does drive to the basket and kick out from the collapsing D as well to create good 3 point looks.

Bottom line is, if you are a half decent passer and you have the ball in your hands most of the time to make plays you're going to get a lot of assists.

This applies whether your name is James Harden or Jeremy Lin.

 

Dwight is not complaining about his touches this year as he did when at LA.He complained bitterly about Kobe's prolific shooting. So he left. Press people have interviewed Dwight this year and he has implied that he is not worried abot his stats. (touches) this year as he was in LA. Durant stated it directly that he is concerned about his stats( read touches and other things that effect his Fg% and PPG) and will pass the ball if the shot clock is way down so he does not have to throw up a bad shot. Why do you think Harden will pass the ball to Lin, Parsons, and the other day to Howard with 3 seconds left.It was very lucky that Howard made the shot behind the 3PT line.It was his first 3PT shot this year and will probably be the last. Harden did not want to shoot with a couple of seconds left because it would reduce his FG%. (quality touches) Watch Harden when he has the ball at the end of the shot clock and does not have a clear look. He will pass the ball with 3 or 4 seconds left. What is the person who gets the pass suppose to do in 3 or 4 seconds. ( I am talking about quality touches when I mention his shot clock behavior. He is willing to lower another players stats in order to keep his stats up. This is not deferring to others.)

 

All the wringing of the hands on all sides can be solved by trading Lin to the Bulls. Get 'er done Morey.

 

That's a horrible trade for the Rockets, no way we give up Lin and Asik for Deng and a 1st. And that's horrible for lof there's no way you can say Lin is better than Rose when he's healthy.

 

Harden's my favorite player on this team. But the majority of the time he doesn't kick it out when the D collapses. He has gotten so used to getting the fouls called that he just forces it and flops the most of the time. And it's effective b/c he gets the call most of the time and converts a lot of FT's. It just doesn't get the rest of the team as involved.

 

Okay fair enough, but keep in mind, CP3 and LBJ are willing passers and are willing to work with the team. CP3 has more leadership experience and LBJ is great teammate with years of leadership as well. Harden is still young in leading a team so I will give him that.

 

Or we could fire Mchale and put in a coach who will start his best 5 and control his superstar's ego… oops….

Oh wait- that's another thread…

 

Agreed. Everyone will tell you it took Jordan a few years to learn to accept that he could trust his teammates. I'm just hopping it happens sooner rather than later.

 

When you look at it objectively Lin is behind Parsons. I like Lin but Parsons offers more to the team. Ranking would go Howard Harden Parsons then Lin and that's assuming Asik gets traded. It's simple combo guards like Lin don't offer as much as a well rounded front court player.

 

I agree. Parson is more valuable to the team considering what he brings to the team and his current salary.