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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. quatin

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    I'm not suggesting AB start either, just that he needs more burn time. The starting PG position needs to be open for contest again. We rotated Jones, Dmo and Smith last year at the starting PF and we should do the same thing with the PG spot now. Match them up accordingly to the PG on the other team or ride hot streaks, but let's not continue with Bev starting every game.
     
  2. Play07

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    my post was about the business side of basketball mainly and how it can players "contracts & cap room" can have an effect line up changes. This is nothing new it happens in MLB, NFL, & the NBA I think you are smart enough to know that.

    Its enough lin vs bev posts so I just wanted to open up a different view that could be right or wrong. I quoted morey in the post also from what I heard on 790. As a rockets fan & 3rd year season ticket holder if you read most of my recent post on trades, you will see I’m fine with lin being moved and us riding with bev if morey feels like it will open up other options for the rockets future.
     
  3. Play07

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    I'm with you BWS that’s why I stated "business risk" is my post
     
  4. bws

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    OK. I mean, Lin earned the starter position. AB could definitely play more, if he's hot, he's a weapon. Sampson going back to him not playing at all when Lin came back didn't make much sense.
     
  5. bws

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    Yes, your post was sound. I like Lin's style of playing and believe in him and I don't want him moved. I followed him from NYC but I certainly support the whole team he is on and take interest in other players. I hope things can work out here but I'm not sure at this point.
     
  6. Rocknation

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    maybe, but i did see plenty of non-calls on Lin when he was a Knick and Rocket, last year. Dirty play is also going on, with what Ryan Hollins did to Lin last year, getting held in the air, hit in the face. elbowed etcetera.
     
  7. Rocknation

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    Don't mind Spiegel, he's been anti-lin Since day one. We know he has an agenda.


    Lin was a great playmaker, maybe not quite Nash in his prime. But Lin is faster and stronger than Nash. While Nash was an incredible shooter and passer.

    Novak became a weapon, so did fields for once under the Lin regime.

    Lin created for Patrick Patterson and Marcus Morris. Lin creates layups for Asik and Jones. Lin also created opportunities for DMO, which is impressive.

    THe ROckets miss Patrick Patterson and M.Morris for sure. They were good glue guys who were long and could shoot the 3 very well.
     
  8. Rocknation

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    I think his first instinct is to Pass to the open guy and then if nobody is open, take the shoot. Which is called team basketball. You seem to be talking about Other NBA superstars like Harden or Melo that look for their own shot first. Though Harden is really not that selfish IMO.
     
  9. Rocknation

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    Harden wasn't the only reason why the Howard went to Atlanta. You are simplifying that drams way too much.

    LA didn't hire Phil Jackson.

    NO other team had the depth that Houston had that could offer D.How the max deal. (GS maybe, but Howard decided against it.)

    Dallas was in no position to get Howard,

    Houston had Parsons, Asik, Harden, and Lin when he was allowed to play significant minutes who are all young enough to get better and reach their primes. Houston was the most attractive offer IMO for Howard.
    P.Patterson and Marcus Morris should have never been traded, but trading those two players was a cap move to be able to acquire D. Howard.
     
  10. Rocknation

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    Alot of this is your own angle and opinion. Other people disagree and find this theory bonkers to be open with you. Look at how the Celtics sacrificed their stats to win. Bosh and wade sacrificed to get Lebron to Miami. NOt every player is that selfish and only think of themselves. The players that get it know that being a winner is more important that having great stats.
     
  11. Rocknation

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    Lin is shooting almost 50 % from the field and 42 % from 3Point land. What are you babbling about?
     
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    Tell this to Harden. Lin already sacrificed his game to fit the team. Howard to a certain extent...other players have to also buy into it. Casspi seems to want to do too much and get his
     
  13. Chemistry

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    The only thing Bev fits is McHale's ego.
     
  14. FTW Rockets FTW

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    When you are the star player in the team, you don't necessarily sacrifice for others. You make others play around you. Kobe never sacrificed for anyone. Wade took a backseat to LBJ. Griffin took a back seat to CP3.
     
  15. bws

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    I agree, I think Harden loves to pass. Sometimes he gets shoot the ball happy but he loves to playmake. He needs to share that playmaking with Lin or whatever other playmaker he may have on the team that's playing with him. Now, he can go either way, being the man or sharing and being the man a little less. I think a Westbrook type doesn't look to pass first, more a scoring PG that happens to get assists sometimes because he has the ball so much.
     
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    That's why I don't care for Kobe. And what has Kobe won since going into elite star that calls the shot mode? And what has Wade done by compromising? Which is better for a team?
     
  17. FTW Rockets FTW

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    He did win a ring with Gasol as sidekick but he was still calling all the shots.

    Wade has won two back-back championship titles by compromising for the star of the team - LBJ
     
  18. Rocknation

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    this is backwards thinking. LBJ is one of the most unselfish players in the league in terms of pure basketball, He'll play any position, if has to thow in 20 assists and 10 points he'll do that. You seem to be talking about Kobe and Melo who will never take a back seat to anyone or any team.

    With you logic, Harden so far superior, even Howard, Parsons should defer to Harden, who is more unproven than Howard who is a 3 time Defensive MVP and multiple time ALL Star. ANd Parsons who is a rising star that needs to adjust his Jumpshot form( Joking asides). And Lin, that has already been decided by the coaching staff the the Rockets organization what role he'll play this year and maybe next.
     
  19. FTW Rockets FTW

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    All i am saying is don't expect stars of any team to take a backseat for others. Expect the others to play around the stars.

    Howard WAS a former 3 time MVP but he has recognized that this is Harden's team for the most part. Wade recognized that LBJ is the star and had to take a step back. It happens at almost every team.
     
  20. vlaurelio

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    yeah and Lin is not Wade. He's not even the 3rd best player on this team right now
     

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