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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. KlutchQT

    KlutchQT Member

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    I don't recall Dwight being benched to avoid hacking more than maybe 2 or 3 times. I've paid particular attention to this b/c I initially questioned McHale's decision to leave him in... but I'm glad he went that direction. Seems to help some when he gets into a rhythm instead of hiding on the bench.
     
  2. ed_tx

    ed_tx Contributing Member

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    Like I said at the beginning, this is hardly scientific or 100% iron clad. But what TheBigFive said is true. If you have players like Lebron, Wade and Garnett, you are typically going to play them more because they are the better players and they will win you more games. If you played Lebron 25 minutes a game for an entire season, opting to go with Rashard Lewis for more minutes, you are definitely going to lose more games.
     
  3. ed_tx

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    I thought you were going to sleep! LOL

    I was just giving that as one reason why Dwight might have only played 26 minutes. I do recall McHale going with a small lineup with all 3 guards in there and having success a number of times and thus, Dwight sat at times.

    I'm glad he let Dwight play through it too. It shows that he supports his big man and the only way he will get better.
     
  4. Panda23

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    2 mny variabl
     
  5. Aleron

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    When Lin's game is on, he plays more minutes, when he's having a bad game, Bev is played more more....
     
  6. Hak34

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    eieio....Talk about reaching, then having someone reach from behind to try and reach further.

    Its simple. 1-9 when Bev plays big minutes. I don't know what games you are watching, but it seems about right to me in the games I have been watching.
     
  7. Roxfreak724

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    Very True. I just wanted to point out that you could probably twist any statistical data to support your case. I did a project for statistics class once that proved that the production of Coke was killing polar bears :eek:
     
  8. ed_tx

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    Agree with your overall take and calling it as you see it. I'm happy for AB to get more burn time to as he was my fave Rocket back in the day. But I do cringe at his defense...
     
  9. CantGoLeft

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    Lin only played 431 minutes (about 5min+ per game) w/o Harden last season. They were great together in transition or when Harden gave up the ball with enough time on the clock so Lin could drive or dish. Obviously Lin was more effective as a spot up shooter w/Harden in the 2nd half of the season.

    I think the original theory with twin towers was that there wouldn't be enough room in the lane to justify having both Lin and Harden on the court w/TT.

    Just for reference: Harden played 776 minutes w/o Lin on the floor.
     
  10. ed_tx

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    100% agree with you that statistics are only so good and can be deceiving. But it goes both ways. My buddy can't stop telling me about how the statistics show that the Rockets are better when Harden is in with Bev vs Harden with Lin. Also, he loves to say how Harden and Lin's production both suffers when they are in together. Well duh- they are taking a few shots from one another but also- maybe other players are getting more involved when Harden and Lin are in together. All depends on how you twist it.

    And Coke does kill polar bears- related to the CO2 they release in the air from manufacturing and bottling Coke and then putting it in trucks to be delivered all over the place and even to me drinking it with my Bicardi and then burping. We are destroying the ozone and it's melting the polar ice and bears are drowning. So no more Bev as our starting PG and I will give up Coke for the season.. :p
     
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    Is this how Lin and Parsons back spasms started?
     
  12. Roxfreak724

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    HAHAHAHAHA! Genius, simply Genius.
     
  13. ed_tx

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    Haha- thanks. Uh oh, if the Rockets really do start Lin over Bev, WTH am I gonna drink at the games???? :eek:
     
  14. hamsession

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    This actually makes sense. The Rockets actually allow 2 more points on average, but score 4 more points on average when Lin plays more than 30 mins compared to Bev playing +30 mins.
     
  15. Pumpedupkicks

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    Seriously appreciate this explanation. I love Diet Coke and polar bears and hate that my daily addiction could contribute to the extinction of the polar bears.

    Anyway, that's my thread derailment for the night. :grin:
     
  16. ed_tx

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    Thanks- I was too lazy to do anymore research but that makes sense. Like I've said before, Bev slowing guys down on D is only good if we can keep up our efficiency on the offensive end. But with Bev, we clearly struggle worse on offense and we are playing with a much less reliable shooter, so the net result is worse.
     
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    I did totally make it up on the spot so a disclaimer on any of the scientific facts that back my statements. lol

    I'm calling it a night too. Another night this board has kept me up way too late. Great discussion everyone. Have a good one.
     
  18. Roxfreak724

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    Idk about your drink, but if you want a serious response to your polar bear stretch, here it is: Insinuating that just the production of coke is killing polar bears is not possible, a multitude of reasons contribute to CO2 release, and though coke production is one, it hardly would account for more than say, the exhaustion of CO2 from internal combustion engines in the world. To prove anything you would need a huge Mult-variable Lin Reg Test with probably 20-50 parameters or a Chi-sq test that take into account most of the large CO2 producing processes in the world. (Also, CO2 doesn't kill the ozone, but i'm guessing you were just screwing around on purpose)

    Top that homeboy:grin:
     
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    Lin needs to stop driving in and TRYING to draw contact (very hard thing to ask, because sometimes it looks open and they get there in time to foul at the last second). He NEVER gets foul calls. I wonder if it's because he left the Knicks. It upset Knicks fans, and Stern did rig one draft to give Ewing to the Knicks so he must be trying to get them good players for his own reasons. Leaving NY for Houston and LA for the Rockets put Dwight and Lin on many people's **** list. Just look at their twitter pages. People still hate on both of them.
     
  20. hamsession

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    Correct. The point (net) differential is double when Lin plays +30 mins compared to Bev playing +30 mins. Thanks for pointing this out.
     

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