Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Here's another shining example of a post by a self labelled 'true rocket's fan.'

 

Just like how happy Asik is currently? Talk about failed logics. lol. How you feel ~= how the players feel. No, I don't know how Lin feels. But we know exactly how Asik feels very clearly.

 

I'm not going to argue your point, as it's valid. But there was a turning point somewhere about a month ago. I've fully accepted the LOF label (though the "only" part was not correct before). I'm proud of it now.

 

i think he's just a kid. i think he said he's 16 or something.

 

That was someone else lol. Hardenisaboss, I think.

 

Ok...lets get back to the topic...do you guys think this year, consider how much Lin has improved over the summer, the Rocket's would've done better if Lin started instead of Bev?

 

I think it would not have made a big difference whether Lin or Bev started as Harden hold on to the ball most of the time anyways. Chemistry would probably be better though and less trade rumor flying around.

 

what a great post. dont post here on clutchfans or the internet in general anymore though

 

Starting really is meaningless unless you're talking about a strategic choice in terms of building a rapid lead since theoretically speaking, 10 extra points in the 2nd quarter is the same as 10 extra points in the 1st quarter.

Right now, we have an insufficient data set to form anything resembling a conclusion.

However, my hunch is that the extra assists, offensive production, and increase in scoring efficiency would more than offset any gains in Opponent Point per Possession as a strategic choice since there is a high correlation between winning the 1st quarter and wins.

From the limited studies I've seen, the highest correlations to wins in terms of per quarter production are...

1) 3rd quarter
2) 1st quarter
3) 2nd quarter
4) 4th quarter

http://www.82games.com/random11.htm

While the data is far from conclusive, I do believe that the correlation does logically make some sense.

While it's hard to infer actual reasons for the correlation, I would posit that winning the 3rd quarter has psychological advantages in terms of player effort on the part of the quarter winning team which translates into higher levels of effort (momentum) and higher team performance. This would also be valuable as you push into the 4th quarter.

On the flip side, I would posit that winning the 1st quarter has multiple advantages. Since you're starting from 0-0, there is the simple mathematical advantage of entering the 2nd quarter with a significant lead. It's like you are starting a 3 quarter basketball game but you have been spotted points, which means that unless the opposing team outplays you, you'll end up winning. IE, they can't afford to trade baskets.

In addition to the mathematical advantage, I believe there may be substantial psychological advantages in terms of player effort over the quarter losing team, IE, you are subjecting the opposition team to serious stress as they push themselves to "catch up". Increased stress related to the desire to "even" the score can increase the probability of error across a wide range of players as they "try too hard".

So, by that logic I would tend to favor bringing out the biggest gun line ups in the 1st quarter, run up the lead as substantially and quickly as possible. By that argument, I would see using Lin in the 1st quarter with the starters as potentially yielding more benefit in terms of earning wins due to the disproportionate impact of increased offensive impact in the 1st vs 2nd and 4th quarters.

In terms of the 3rd quarter, I believe it would be more situational. Depending on the match ups and the score, there would be arguments to have either Beverley OR Lin playing the bulk minutes depending on whether you're trying to stem opponent momentum, or build on your own momentum.

Anyway, an interesting topic that could be debated intelligently for a very long time.

 

No player playing 2009-2010 season for Rocket is still in Rocket now
Must be a Morey only fan

don't be serious, please

 

Lin just minding his business at home not even thinking about a bunch of fans fighting eachother everyday on the internet just for him or because of him. Lmao

 

McHale and the coaching staff wanted to keep Dragic. He was supposedly a little angry at Morey when Dragic wasn't re-signed.

 

Thanks Al Gore. It's an honor.

 

Seriously? Dragic desperately wants to leave rocket at that time
because of _____ ( the guys you mentioned above)

 

I don't think Dragic desperately wanted to leave the Rockets. The Rockets are the team that gave him minutes so he could sign a big contract. Dragic decided to not sign with the Rockets because Phoenix made a better offer. I think Dragic and McHale have a good relationship.

 

Dragic wanted another year on his contract which the Suns agreed to and the Rockets did not.

At the time the Rockets did not have Harden. The Rockets were putting themselves in a position to get a superstar player by 2015.

 

That's even worse.

 

Bingo! I think that's why Lin is starting, Harden will get less touches if Lin started. Whereas Beverley just is he's the ball off to the stars. That's why he fits the system better.

 

*not starting

 

Exactly. When Lin and Harden play together they both get fewer touches. Split them up and they both get more touches. It's not that complicated, but some people will never understand.