Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

i'm a lin fan and of cause i want lin to start but since so many of u dont like lin to start, then start AB. If u think AB cant do the job either then trade lin for a true starting PG, for both the team and lin...dont waste him as a backup SG

 

I know- hence my wink. lol

I totally agree. Bev is great at being that pesky defender to get in guy's heads. If I were Mchale, I would start Lin and if he starts getting lit up, bring in Bev to be the cooler. I'm confidant that more often than not, Lin will hold his own.

 

I agree- it's the fear of being wrong after they called him out in the past. He has too many turnovers. He cut them way down. So then it was he can't shoot the ball. Well he raised his FG%. Then it was he can't shoot 3's (especially after the Miami air ball). Well he has elevated his 3 point game too. He's done everything a second year starter should be doing, which is continuing to elevate his game. Does he have room to improve? Sure he does and so does everyone on the team. But he sure is good enough to be a good starting PG on a strong contending team.

And I think that there aren't as many LOF's as people like to believe. I've been labeled an LOF a couple of times (as seen tonight) and I've been a season ticket holder for almost 10 years. But anytime anyone wants to defend Lin or refute the biased comments of some LOH's, they get labeled that way.

I tell you what, I was much more vocal in defending Obama when I first voted for him. All the lies and BS that were being thrown around the media were ridiculous. And due to that, I was labeled a liberal a couple of times. But I'm far from some bleeding heart liberal. I also voted for Bush both terms before Obama but rarely had to comment publicly about it b/c there just wasn't the stupidity that was being permeated through the news and internet against him.

 

The problem is you don't really understand the issue, Our defensive scheme essentially leaves Bev on an island alone with their pg and yet he still produces consistently better defense than Lin, who receives help from the other wings. How do you think we kept Golden State down? we did it by leaving Bev entirely alone on Curry and having our wings never help, same thing happened against the Spurs, same thing happened against Sacramento (but this game between Dwight's foul trouble, Harden's injury, Lin sitting out, Asik sulking and Jones having the flu, wasn't really one to write home about)

These games also have another common trait, when Beverley sits, his opponent goes on a binge, Curry did it, Parker did it, and Thomas did it.

Another compounded issue is the fouls that would lead to on Dwight, he has enough issues without having a leaky sieve as the primary on ball defender, the weakness in Bev's defensive game is he's short so he doesn't really get in the head of jump shooters (either catch and shoot or iso jump shot) and commits silly fouls on occasion, he's excellent at defending off screens and pick and rolls though, the 2 most likely to kill your perimeter rotations.

 

did i say bev is the worst starting PG in NBA? yes, i did.
did i say bev should give half of his wage to Harden? i did, have a look at his ast number.
did i say bev play like a monkey? yes i i did. jumping up and down.
did i ask how far can we go with bev as our starter? you know the answer.

hating on Lin is one thing, finding the right man for PG job is another. Harden can't be PG and SG. with bev, Harden needs to do both job very very good in order for us to win. yes, one game, five games, he can do it. but after that and in between, that is our lovely bev, jumping up and down, bring the ball up, give us 2 ast a game while he plays over 30 mins. well, there will be no or low TOs, well, if you don't try or know how to be a PG, why would you have any TOs. Harden will have to do it all. score heavily, feeding his teammate. of course bev' is willing to give the ball to harden. He doesn't need to do anything other than do a bit defense. something a lot of people overate it by long margin. being Harden's pet is the way to get the starter job for bev.

i hate to see coach actually choose someone which it is not capable to be our starting PG. how could just ignore how well have JLin play since start of the season. well, i want my team to do well. with bev as our starter, the burden on Harden is insane. regular season is long and brutal one, if anything, you might not get to watch Harden show up during the Playoffs. yes, this is that serious.

i don't hate anyone. certainly don't hate bev. he is serviceable on this team. he will have his spark. but not as a first choice PG. i played basketball myself, i love playing all out defense. in a way, i like bev's game.

 

Curry had plenty of penetrations and broke down our defense on numerous occasions. IIRC, Curry had one of his worst games last year vs Lin, and Bev still gets stuck on picks.

Our defense scheme is terrible in neutralizing picks. I don't care if our PG is Rubio, Conley, or CP3, good picks will take out our PG. It's how our defense reacts AFTER the pick that causes the breaks down.

Our defense is nowhere near championship caliber. It has so many flaws that I'll begin with Dwight.

Dwight ices PnR's and it's not working! For a center who never hedges, he can't stop penetrations by good PG's coming out of picks. Asik is a lot better at defending PnR's than Dwight.

Do fans notice that our defense ended up on the mismatch a lot this season? This season Rockets switch up a lot more than last season. It's been fully exposed by good opposition coaches already. It causes mismatches and ended up with Lin on Gay, Dwight on Parker, or Lin on Bargnani...

I hate this LAZY switch defense!

Our perimeter defense is terrible. We are way too passive and never initiate any traps; we always let their offense come to us. No game plans such as to take the ball out of CP3's hand. Instead we let him have the ball for as long as he wanted and wrecked havoc into our defense. We don't have terrible perimeter defenders; we just have terrible perimeter defensive scheme.

Our defensive efficiency improved by measly 0.021 point per possession. The result is simply not acceptable by adding the best center in the league and Asik anchored defense most of time when Dwight was off.

Our offense by replacing Asik with Dwight? We improved by 0.005 PPP. If you consider projection that young players improve with age and experience, Rockets actually regressed from last season in offense efficiency.

Are you ready for this?

Even by adding Dwight--the best center in the league, the results are the same! Rockets are virtually the same team from last season. Not much had improved from on neither end of the court.

 

LOL, this isn't the NFL where you can just leave a corner on a receiver. He ran Bev through a ton of picks and he was held down because he got in foul trouble and had to hold back and his jump shot wasnt on.

Check the video of Curry's shots, assists, etc, plenty came off screens, picks with Bev on him and defenders switching, etc.
http://stats.nba.com/playerGameLogs.html?PlayerID=201939&pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

 

Did Torocan called him LOH?
The point is some people were labeling every one who pro Lin or criticizing players who not named Lin as LOF, it's getting ridiculous nowadays to have a reasoned discussion.
Obviously there's bad apples from both side. IMO Clutch crew often sided with one side than the other, it might be one of the reason these LOF name calling getting out of control.
You can see the Mods don't like when the word Anti-Lin , LOH got mentioned , but i seldom see any complaint when people call another poster a LOF who Anti-Bev, Anti-Harden or Anti-whoever , it's ridiculous because some of them are long time Rockets fans

 

so we'll be eight seed again?

 

Well said. I totally agree with you.

 

This feature is amazing

 

Anyone who says anything reasonably nice about Lin is a LOF. Anyone that calls out McHale, Sampson, Harden, Beverley (and to a lesser extent Brooks) is a LOF. Anyone who didn't think Lowry/Dragic were way better than Lin is a LOF. Anyone who thought Lin is a starting PG is a LOF. Heck, anyone that grabs out stats that show Lin is clearly much better than Beverley offensively and not much of a drop off defensively is a LOF.

We've even got comments that 'Synergy hasn't won a championship' ... if people use Synergy stats to say Lin has been pretty decent defensively.

I have to make a comment that "Jeremy Lin sucks" to be labelled a Rockets-only-fan.

 

You're join date, post narratives gives you away.

 

I feel you assessment of the situation is right on the money.

 

Your posting style of constantly attacking people and trying to discredit them personally rather than actually looking at what they're saying gives you away.

You're 10x worse than any LOF.

 

Jeremy Lin is Asian. He needs to start. NOW!!!

 

Another typical post lacking in arguments.

The proper argument is. PG on team not named Jeremy Lin. Deserves to start.

 

Your arguments give you away, every time.

 

What do majority of Lin fans do here? Bash Harden, McHale, the Rockets or whomever they feel double crossed the great Jeremy Lin.. majority of the fans here are rightly sick of it.

 

Parker went on a binge with Bev on him in the last. He scored 10 straight points with Bev guarding him. Thomas went by Bev at will and at the end of the fourth quarter Bev lost Thomas a Thomas got a back door layup. Synergy has Bev as a poor iso. shooting defender- Catch and shoot as you said.