Jeremy Lin out tonight with back spasms (12/15/2013)

I guess my question comes down to when is a player declared inactive? Before or during the game. If it is before the game, why is it not listed on the official NBA website like it is typically done. If the coach does not declare a player to be inactive before the game, the player is consider active and can sit with uniform. If it was during the game, why can't he sit on the bench with his uniform like other players that get injured during the game.

 

Fixed:grin:.

 

Here's a full on conspiracy theory for you all.
Lin privately has requested a trade and Morey knows he has one in the pipeline. Morey asks Lin to play along like he is mildly hurt so he can complete the trade without a real injury getting in the way.
Lin agrees to play along so he gets what he wants.
The coaches also were informed and Sampson saying that it's likely Lin wont play on Wednesday after 2 full days of rest and treatment to me screams trade in the works.

Now if I were a betting man I'd think we were trading Lin to Milwaukee for Caron Butler and a first round draft pick (top 5 protected).

 

I was also a little put back that Sampson was already ruling Lin out for Wednesday's game. I heard that Sampson thinks Lin still needs to get his rhythm back from his knee injury, so this new back spasm injury might set him back a bit in that regards.

Still it's very strange that for a back spasm, Sampson is already starting to think about keeping Lin out for Wednesdays game especially since Lin needs on court time to get his rhythm back.

 

Morey is a team chemistry killer by constantly spreading trade rumors...he seriously needs to know when to stop!!! Any trades during this season won't do any good for the Rockets cause the goal for the team is to win the title!! Lin and Asik not going anywhere!!

 

How do you know Morey is spreading these rumours? It sounds more like fans speculating than anything else.

 

Don't remember calling you crazy because I personally think that would have been disrespectful. I try to refrain from calling names and putting labels on people. But perhaps I slipped. If so I apologize. Don't like the name-called rhetoric. I feel very strongly it should be eliminated altogether on the bbs.

However, I do remember you touted Drummond highly and I was adamant that he was going to bust if he didn't learn to shoot free throws. My sentiment towards him hasn't changed one bit despite all the gaudy box scores. Still not impressed with him. Still think Greg Monroe is the far superior player. Still think Drummond is going to hang around the league for 10 years chewing up paychecks, cap space, and possessions and not win anything. UNLESS he learns to shoot his free throws.

 

Have you ever watched him play? He shows 100x the potential and natural progression Monroe has. He is a premier centre in the league even with his FT shooting.

 

Ugh.

Yes, I've seen him play. Plenty. About 80% of his NBA minutes so far. He is an athletic freak. No doubt about it. But you cannot be a great player in this league with a free throw percentage in the 30's. He's recently moved it up to almost 40 now. But I'd be surprised if he stays up that high. His FTs are so bad they can't do anything offensively with him besides use him as a garbage man and in the pick-and-roll. His post up game will never develop. Too easy to just foul him and make him shoot a couple.

He'll hang around for 10+ years as long as he stays healthy. He'll tease and tantalize the masses with gargantuan box scores against the dregs of the league that just let him go and finish. And somewhere between his 4th and 6th years he's likely to be traded to some other team as they see this massive man with massive athleticism and size and think they can do more with him than the Pistons can and about that time the Pistons will realize that they can't win with him so they'll move him for a king's ransom.

My opinion on Drummond hasn't changed one iota. If he can only hit 30 some percent of his free throws he will never be great and he will always disappoint. He's the Rudy Gay of bigs except he doesn't have Gay's creative talent.

 

o·pin·ion·at·ed

/əˈpinyəˌnātid/

conceitedly assertive and dogmatic in one's opinions.

"an arrogant and opinionated man"

synonyms:

dogmatic, of fixed views, dictatorial, pontifical, domineering, pompous, self-important, arrogant

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Drummond's free throw percentage is grotesque, 'tis true (38%), but you have to say, "He has time to improve it; if he can hit near 50%, we'll suffer it" because:

• PER of 23
• 13 ppg
• 13rbg
• 1.5 bpg
• 1.8 steals per game

Would I prefer Greg Monroe? Sure, but obviously Detroit chose Drummond, given how Monroe is gowanns to be an RFA.

 

The easiest way to understand it is to remember that we're talking about different moving parts that are on their own schedules.

1) Coach has to declare official roster for that game. That's written on a piece of paper which is then submitted prior to game start. Those listed as active suit up and sit on the bench in uniform. Those listed as inactive such as those who are injured are set as inactive, they must then either be in the locker/training room or if court side must follow NBA dress code (suit/jacket and shoes/boots).

2) Each arena submits the official rosters to the NBA. Copies are also distributed to the media.

3) The NBA receives the roster, then updates it in their records. This may be done at time of receipt, but it may be done at the end of the night when they've received roster information for all teams that played that night (end of the West coast games).

4) The NBA passes this information to the Online web content section, which then updates this information. This may be done as it's received, or once the information is received from all the relevant teams, or it may be done at some set time after the completion of all games.

So, there's time delays as it's distributed from the team to the arena to the media/nba and to the web content providers (ESPN/NBA/etc).

Most likely the Web Content providers (like nba.com) would do this at a single pass. IE, either once they have it from all east and west coast teams (which would put it about mid way through the start of the west coast games), or it would be once all West coast games are completed (which would put it around midnight or 1am), or it would be at some pre-determined time like 2am, 4am or even 6am the following day.

Essentially look at it this way... if you're the guy that has to key in all the roster information, would you want to run to your desk every 5 minutes to key it in as you get the roster lists? Or would you just wait until you have ALL of them and key them all in at once so that you can watch the games?

 

Meh. Personally I'm not super high or low on Drummond, but I think it's unfair to assume that he'll never develop the weak aspects of his game.

The kid is 20 years old. He's YEARS away from his peak, and edging up to a 50%ish FT and developing some post play is Far from inconceivable.

Personally I find it amazing how quick people are to discount the very real possibility of player growth. Players develop skills FAR more often than remain stagnant. The only question usually is whether those skills develop sufficiently to keep them in the NBA or take them to the next level.

Young players grow. Good coaches help them focus on what they need to improve. If they have a good attitude, they usually improve.

 

See a thread about JLin and I'm just like.....

Spoiler

 

I hope he feels better soon.

DD

 

Did we get derailed in a Jeremy Lin thread talking about Drummond? :grin:

Gotta be careful with that. They pass out demerits when you do it. Better stick to Lin here. :grin:

 

Maybe Sampson is thinking about the Bull games and trying to play mind games with Thibs. That way the Bulls don't prepare for Lin and Lin has an easier time getting back into rhythm.

 

Most sensible and positive post in the past few pages. Wow, how did this sneak in here?

 

I just take what the defense gives me...

 

Who's wife and kids do we have to kidnap to get Milwaukee to give us a lotto pick for Lin?

 

By seeing no matter Mchale or Sampson cutting their minutes or roles on the team, signing brooks and Cunningtan as backup Pgs in the offseason...

They apparently want to test how the team functions without them, and I guess they think both of them are irreplaceable or at least the GM want them to figure out ways to play without them so that they can get rid of both of their mega contracts next year for an all-star player, say Love or Durant, but forget the fact that we can actually win the title this year with this lineup, with asik being a stretch 4 and Lin being a stretch 2 or the sixth man, whatever, to play deep in the playoffs...
It's just shortsighted and has hurt the team, for the heavy minutes put on certain players have cost their health. If it isn't Morey spreading the rumor, he can just clarify when people are speculating, but he's never done that for Asik. I guess hell probably jump out saying Lin is too valuable a player to be traded because harden just sprained his ankle, but once the shorthanded crisis fades, he will leak out the message... Morey, an opportunist, did do loads of great trades for the team, but sometimes the art of being a GM is to know when to stop!!!