[ESPN] Who will go number 1: Bridgewater vs. Clowney

The worst part about his game are the turnovers, which might be hard for Texans fans to deal with, but he is very solid.

 

Tom Brady disagrees.

 

A lot of his turnovers are a direct result of the poor offensive line play though...getting blindsided and fumbling, trying to run for his life and still make a play, etc...

Sure, he can make some boneheaded plays by trying to do too much, but he can also carry an offense too. AJ would finally have a QB that will go to him repeatedly, specially in the endzone.

And not even saying this is the answer, but it should certainly be looked into if the scouting team doesnt feel like Bridgewater is worthy of the #1.

 

First Teddy Bridgewater will not flame out. He may not turn into the best quarterback in the league but barring injury he will be a top tier quarterback in the league. Clowney is a much bigger risk.

Secondly all of this developing is just nonsense. He is not RGIII or Kaepernick even. He doesn't have to learn the pro style offense. He is as good as anyone coming out of college not named Luck as there is. He has been reading defenses since high school. You do not compare him RGIII or Geno Smith. They ran spread offenses in college and had a lot of success. There was a reason NFL scouts avoided spread offense QB's in the draft, they believed players needed years of practice to truly learn the pro style system. Then Wilson , Kaepernick and RGIII had success last year and the Eagles hire a coach to run it and New York drafts Geno Smith.

OOPs the NFL caught up and it only took a year. You can't just run a simple offense were the QB has only one option and if he is not open you throw to the running back or run. Defenses are too smart for that. Which is why RGII, Geno Smith and Case Keenum struggle so much and why Peyton Manning and Tom Brady excel. And it's why Bridgewater will succeed.

Bridgewater goes through his progressions better than any college QB I've seen in recent history not named Luck. Bridgewater has even better pocket presence and Bridgewater does all of this without half the mentoring and training Luck had and he is younger and quicker than Luck was when he graduated. And Bridgewater gets better every year!

Winston will be good too. He has those same qualities albeit not as refined and he is bigger and stronger but he is not available. Teddy is and Teddy comes with character and a maturity beyond his years. Teddy will come in ready.

Yes he will have to adjust to the speed of the NFL but he is used to staying in the pocket and trusting his line and knows how to move around the pocket and go through his progressions as quick as anyone in college and many in the pros. He will need to learn the specific system but he is very intelligent, a cerebral QB if I ever seen one. He is not flashy and won't be the best interviewer but he will be an immediate improvement from day one.

Also you will be amazed how much better the line looks with Bridgewater at QB. You won't need to shore up the O-Line. Use the next 3 or 4 picks in the draft on defense and pick up a RB in case Foster's back doesn't heal. Sign a couple of free agents with the money you save releasing Schaub, Joseph, Manning, Daniels etc. And maybe sign a veteran back up QB on the cheap. (Not sure Case can learn a pro style offense, so far doesn't look good). That's my opinion.

 

I could not disagree more with this assessment.

If the Texans invest the 1.1 pick on Bridgewater, we need to use 2.1 on the best available RT. There should be a very very good RT on the board when we pick in the 2nd round as this draft has been described as one of the "best Tackle drafts in recent memory".

Teddy 1.1, RT 2.1, BPA the rest of the way.

 

Even with the potential of Quessenberry or Brennan Williams?

 

Wow, you read all of it and that's your input. Honestly I don't know the most important need after QB. Protecting the QB is important but rushing the QB is too. Also I might add a QB with better footwork and quicker release will need less time to throw. Just watch Schaub vs Keenum and you can see that Schaub gets rid of the ball quicker and is under duress less. Bridgewater is quicker than both of them at delivering to his open receiver. Plus there is a history that line men take longer to develop. Newton has played okay at times and he is getting better. It's hard to see that because Keenum isalways under pressure. That's the book on Keenum rush him hard and he will fail. Whatever we do starting with Bridgewater is where I want to begin.

 

i LOVE quessenberry at LG.

i am not sure about Williams as I have not seen him play. I would like a RT at 2.1 and let him and Williams battle it out in camp.

 

well, i bolded the part that I disagreed with.

I agreed with most of it. I do not believe in Newton though. That guy plays with the worst technique I have seen in quite some time. I agree Bridgewater could make them look better than they actually are, but I would like to truly solidify the right side of the oline... Imagine what Bridgewater could do with a very good oline.

But, if there is a dope pass rusher at 2.1.. I cannot blame the texans for taking him. My preference is a RT though. We can probably get first round value at the tackle position with the first pick in the 2nd round. Let him and Williams battle it out, and have good depth for the inevitable injury.

 

I'm in the Bridgewater camp.

Clowney or Barr would be okay, but they'd both be somewhat of a luxury pick. We may not resign Antonio Smith, but Jared Crick is coming along okay, and we could draft more depth in the second, third, or even fourth rounds at DE. If scouting deems Bridgewater to be the kind of guy to build around (and I know a lot of people have...especially before the season), you gotta do it.

His first half against a great defensive Florida team in the sugar bowl last year was nothing short of amazing. He absolutely destroyed them -without any form of a running game.

If we drafted Bridgewater, he would come in and from day one be arguably the best quarterback in franchise history - yes, I said that. He's more than likely better than Schaub from day one (he'd just need to develop chemistry and timing with his receivers).

His pocket presence and escapability are great. Fans thought Keenum had great awareness to avoid sacks, initially (since proven mostly wrong). Just wait till they see Bridgewater. He actually uses his footwork to avoid sacks while stepping up in the pocket and still delivers a strike. He's got a great arm with a good knack for throwing receivers open (he almost does this too much). This is all without a running game, folks.

He's a tough, tough kid. In the Florida game, he took a viscous helmet to helmet hit from John Bostick. It knocked Teddy's helmet off. He gets right back up, and in the same drive, gets to the line, sees an all-out blitz, does a three-step drop, sees nothing, and takes off for twelve yards. Love it.


Look, the kid's a gamer. I would love for the Texans to draft him. In fact, I think the more I type, the more I'd be upset if he was there and we didn't. I honestly think the only reason people are knocking him is because he is not your typical all-American quarterback. He's a nerdy-looking black guy, who may still have braces (not sure), and wears bubble gum in his socks during games...

I honestly think Bridgewater is possibly the only above average quarterback in this draft, except maybe for Manziel. Hundley could be good, too, but I don't think he's coming out.

 

Excellent post. Haven't seen enough of Bridgewater so this is really helpful. Given the choices at the top of the draft (Clowney, Matthews, Barr, Bridgewater) grabbing a franvhise QB makes the most sense. But he can't be a bust, he has to be a safe pick. Otherwise you go Clowney. If Bridgewater equates to a Matt Ryan or better in terms of his rating as a draftee, then he's worth picking. But he can't be a Cutler or a Lienhart, or a Ponder; or a Tannihill, or a Sam Bradford. He's got to be special.

RT in the 3rd round. Deep tackle draft and I'm not giving up on Brennen Williams or Queesenberry.

 

My ideal would be Bridgewater, ILB in the second, free safety or corner in the third, OL in the fourth and fifth, best available after.

 

Welp I guess Clowny's out. Not fitting in with our good old battle fighting boys

 

We really need to get the #1 pick and bridgewater

 

I'd rather draft a literal RAT from Petsmart instead of a "maybe" QB with the first pick.

You draft the most NEEDED spot on the field first over all when you have a sure bet, Teddy isnt a sure bet.

#PetsmartRat

 

saw a plan this week to take Clowney with the #1 and trade the 2:1 and 2015 1st to go up and get Manziel. I kinda like it; it would bring a lot of excitement to a shocked franchise and city.

 

I likey!

 

Interesting. I have no idea who the best QB is in this draft. But I do think that a legit concern regarding Manziel has to be that playing behind a pro o-line in college gives you an incredible advantage and probably helps to significantly inflate your stats. If you look at some of the other QBs who had success behind questionable o-lines, I think that really speaks to their value as a prospect. Not saying Manziel won't be a good nfl QB. Just saying that I worry he might be overrated due to the o-line talent in front of him.

 

Right? You just spent two draft picks last year on OT. Assuming that one of them can play, you don't need to use the first overall pick on another freaking OT. Geez, OT has become the new TE.

I'm all in for Teddy. I said before the season began this year that I wished we could trade Schaub for Bridgewater immediately...I never thought we'd suck bad enough to be able to pick up Teddy.