Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

to paraphase someone on this board...

we were 8-0 when our offense scores more the opposite team...
but were 0-6 when our offense scores less than the opposite team



haha

 

Agreed. But you are talking on deaf ears. Most people on clutch fans like to post stats but don't understand the simple concept taught in college stats,"standard deviation".
If people would take into the account of the standard deviation between Lin's usage rate during Linsanity , 1st year on the Rockets and 2nd year with the rockets then the wouldn't be able to say Lin can't be Linsanity.
Why did Morey construct Lins contract if they were never going to let Lin get a fair shot to try to se if Lin was capable. At least give it a two week steric to let Lin simply be Lin. And ever time he looked like it Mch **** blocked and cut Lins minutes down for God only know what reasons.
But we will play Black Amish 40 min+ an night to justify his max $ and run him to the ground and scratch our heads on Y he has feet problem.
I like Bev & Harden. I just want Lin to get a fair shot to show what he can do. I think by having Lin as the starting pg it can take a lot of pressure off black Amish , let pretty boy spot up and get D12 easier basket of of penetration when his man rotates over just like in the 3rd qtr of last night game.
But no let just give Lin 16 min and say he can't do *****.
knee jerk StANDARD DEVIATIon

 

Ignoring the logical fallacy in the rest of your comment; your initial question was answered before you asked it.
Pay attention.

 

Did you not watch us lose these past games?

 

I am truly, truly embarrassed by this thread. 98% of y'all should be effing ashamed of yourselves.

 

Look....come by the end of next week (if Lin isn't traded along with Asik):

Asik: Have fun with this team and coach McHale.
Lin: Man, wish I could get the hell outa here too.
Asik: Haha...I know what you mean.
Lin: Bummer...another year on the bench. Take me with you.

:grin:

 

I'm just trying to get my head around folks not wanting Rondo, who might be our best player, and would make Harden and Dwight 100x more efficient and lethal.

 

This is why we dislike Lin fans. All they care about is lin. Look at his pathetic comments.

 

Plus Harden would gladly allow Rondo a superstar control the ball. can you imagine Rondo finding a great open court player like Harden on the offensive transition.

 

Anyone who doesn't want Rondo doesn't know anything about basketball.

My only concern is, the Rockets have no pieces they can give up to get Rondo. Danny Ainge doesn't seem interested in trading Rondo, and won't unless he gets an offer he can't refuse - and one centered around Asik simply won't get it done.

 

The irony would be that if/once Lin is traded and people here don't feel the need to defend Beverley due to the presence of Lin, they'll very quickly start to call for Beverley's head.

It's just the state of this forum now.

And if Lin is gone, there will be far less resistance to a coaching change.

 

I'm not as high on Bev as our coaching staff is but this game is exactly the type where Bev thrives.

I just don't believe in him logging heavy minutes.

 

Bev is exactly what we need lmao.

61GP, .406 FG%, .354 3P%, 2.7 APG, 6.8 PPG for his career

This year he has a 11.2 Per

Bev gives you zilch on offense. On D he is just a defensive specialist. He plays amazing against small/quick PG but lousy against Tall/strong PGs. If you factor his good games on D and his bad games on D he is not that good.


12/4 against the Suns
Bev 42 minutes
Bledsoe/Dragic scored 39 points on 13/25, 52 FG%

12/2 against the Jazz
Bev 38 minutes
Burke/Burks scored 42 points on 19/29, 65.5 FG%

11/30 against the Spurs
Bev 37 minutes
Parker scored 27 points on 13/27, 48.1 FG%

11/20 against the Mavs
Bev 37 min
Calderon/Larkin scored 21 points on 7/13, 53.8 FG%

11/16 against the Nuggets
Bev 27 minutes
Lawson 28 points on 11/19, 57.8 FG%

11/13 against the Sixers
Bev 42 minutes
Andersen 36 points on 12-16, 75 FG%
Wroten 18 points, 10 reb, 11 asts
Who did the incredible Bev stop?


I'm not even including games Bev didn't play heavy minutes or when he just came back from injury. Factor in he missed several games earlier this year, Bev has only played well a handful of games on D all season long yet he has this reputation as a great defender lmao.

Lets debunk this false claim for Bev who does nothing on offense.

 

I think the real irony will be if Lin ever does find himself on another team all the Lin fans who finally realize:

McHale isn't the only coach who they will think "misuses and isn't fond of Lins game"

That being annoyed by and getting tired of the hoard of over the top Lin fans isn't exclusive to clutchfans

That watching their favorite player put up stats on a crap team isn't as fun as they thought it would be

 

If the Rockets had a PG like Lin BUT not Lin who plays like him on Offense and Defense, there would be no question that PG would start and play 33+ mpg while the defensive specialist Patrick Beverly would be the 3rd string PG he should be.

 

Obviously, if you can grab a superstar like Rondo you do it. So long as you can guarantee his return from injury.

I think you can absolutely win a championship with Lin as your PG, starting or coming off the bench, so long as you give him freedom to attack. He is quickly developing into a nightly offensive threat (before his recent injury), and has always had the "floor general" aspect of the PG game on lock.

What you cannot do is trade Lin and not get another floor general in return. Relying on Bev and Brooks exposes a big hole in our lineup whenever they're on the floor - the lack of playmakers who can also control tempo.

To compete with the big boys - Spurs, Heat, Pacers, Thunder - you need 2-3 borderline elite wings who can get others easy shots. Harden can do that, but will need to mature in terms his shot and play selection. Parsons is our glue guy and can break down tertiary defenders, but he can be taken out of games.

Losing Lin is fine, so long as we get comparable playmaking ability. Rondo? Sure. Dragic? Lateral move, but okay. Patrick Beverly + Brooks? Not so much.

 

Very true. The Rockets, their coaching staff and the fans of clutchfans are generally pretty racist. So you have a point...

Take out the game Lin got hurt in and last nights game where any reasonable fan would understand that easing him back into minutes is the right thing to do, he is averaging 32 minutes per game. I really, really, really see no problem with that. That's respectable starter level minutes.

 

There aren't many PGs that are better at scoring at the rim than Lin. And this Rockets' system isn't meant for anyone to get 8+ assists regularly, especially anyone not named Harden.

What you're asking for is for the Rockets to completely ditch the identity they've been building for over a year now because STAR PLAYER OMGZ!

That's fine if you think that's how championships are built, but then cut it out with this Bev deserving to be a starter because of "fit" and "defense" and "champions don't need star PGs."

 

I don't think Les or Morey is racist. I think they would prefer Lin plays heavy minutes and plays well and the team win games. I think they like Lin.

I don't think the coaching staff is racist. I think they have a set mindset of Lin from 2 years ago when they decided to cut Lin for nothing and kind of want to justify that by limiting Lin now. I think the Mavs game was a joke when up to that point Lin played well in every game yet they benched him and only played him 17 min. Before the benching Lin was at 19 Per and avg close to 20 ppg. I think the coaching staff is not racist but has Lin on a very short leash while Bev who has shown zilch on offense and played poorly on D several games, avg on D several games, missed several games due to injury has a very long leash for an unproven rookie who is mediocre at best and in reality the worst starting PG in the league.

Most fans on clutchfans are not racist. There is a vocal minority of less than 10% that are Lin haters that might be.

Beverly being mediocre and should play limited minutes coming off the bench has nothing to do with Lin.

Any PG that is similar to Lin should be the starter over bev

 

Lin started and played all 82 games last year. Harden was a beast and played better last year than this year. Lin led the Rockets in APG, over Harden.

Lin could easily have avg 7-8 apg if he didn't start the season so poorly due to his off season surgery.