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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. apcgamb24

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    Lin is more likely than not to not become a star, but to simply dismiss him to not have ANY star potential whatsoever is dumb.

    I even think Terrence Jones has some star potential. I'm 95% sure he won't be a star, but he does have potential
     
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    Don't feel like reading through 27 pages...

    Imo, Lin should start, but that doesn't make him better than Bev. Lets get this clear. EVERY player in the NBA can play defense. They're not morons. However, some play much better defense than others (i.e, Bev vs. Lin). The Rockets aren't a team that focus around stopping the ball. They're about playing effective defense, and taking the ball up court with a fast, lethal, scoring pace. Bev facilitates that defensive aspect of that perfectly, but he's non existent on the scoring side. You want to know why Beverly always has open 3's? Because teams know that he's the least of their worries offensively. He's a non factor, and that allows players to move closer to the basket for defensive rebounds.

    Lin, on the other hand, plays above average offense. He can create for himself, has a solid 3, and a solid mid-range. However, he can't keep up with the faster point guards. That's a big issue. But, once again, Lin is an offense threat. That's what this team is about. We're about the offense, and about having every player being able to score at will. With Lin on the floor, whether he's scoring or not, gives his teammates more room. People have to guard Lin, because they know on any given night that he can drop 20+ easily. Even when he is guarded, he puts up decent numbers. That's why Lin should start. Not because he's better overall, not because he's paid 8 million, but because he fits the system that this team was designed around.

    In short, Beverly can stop his man from scoring all the points he wants, but unless he can increase his offense effectiveness enough to get his team going, and to make an impact on the game (Especially our 3 point specialty), then I think he should come off the bench.
     
  3. chenjy9

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    Because he had a flash in the pan run, he is considered "star quality" now? Please... on that note, Tebow must have star potential too right? How about Collison when he beasted after CP3 had gone down? Lin is not a star and flashing for a stretch of games proves nothing. He is a mediocre PG who can score when feeling it. That is it.
     
  4. apcgamb24

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    It's different for a point guard. You need to be able to run an offense. Name one point guard who's playing as a sixth man behind someone who's almost inept offensively and can't run an offense.
     
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    It's not saying he's not a star. It's pointing out that he has shown stretches of games enough times where he played like a star. This shows, with the right dedication of improving his game, he may very well be one in the making. And look at the improvements he's made since the ASB and in the off-season. Dismissing him then as serviceable is not fair.
     
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    Can we wake up one day and unicorns are flying in rainbow filled skies? Sure it COULD happen, but it won't. Nothing about Lin suggests star potential except the fact that he is a cultural icon.
     
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    LOL @ missing linsanity, who didn't witness linsanity
     
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    Do you want Dwight Howard sitting on the bench because of foul trouble? That's what you will get more often than not if Lin starts.
     
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    Tebow is out of the NFL. Where's Jeremy?
     
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    Who would make harden/Howard better Ben or Lin and he them better looks by drawing more attention ? with me it's not about stats and how he can score a lot of pints etc, harden has regressed so far this year with his efficiency. Parsons harden Lin use to get a lot of easy points on fast breaks last year.

    Garcia & delfino came off the bench last year Lin started but some way he still was in games getting those guys good looks. We complained all last year on how asik can catch lins passes has hands of stone well now we HOWARD but will never see how that could have made the team better having someone who can catch those passes

    Howard is on video saying he was looking forward to playing p&r with Lin before the season started. CF & the media went with harden needs the ball etc
     
  13. bws

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    What happens with Lin will be shown in time. I love people that just know what somebody will turn out to be or won't. You don't think Lin has heard this stuff before...and proven people wrong. Very wrong.
     
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    Y'all need to stop falling for these trolls. No wonder the Lin debates never ends lmao
     
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    There are only 3 SGs in the nba who can run an offense, Harden, Kobe and Wade (who defers to LBJ most of the time anyway). Beverley is basically Derek Fisher with a slightly worse 3p%, slightly better 2p% but a much better defender.
     
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    Dude get this through your head. He will never get a chance to show anything like that here in Houston. His choice are ask for a trade or stay nail to the beach for 12-20 spot minutes depending on How McHale Ana Sampson's gut is feeling.

    Lin will not be put back in a starter spot in Houston barring injury and even then it won't be at point guard.
     
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    Very good arguments. And I'm not sure if you really believe Bev is better overall than Lin.... I think you were saying that for effect. But I think not only are your arguments valid, but in addition to that, Lin is a superior player overall.
     
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    Lol dude I feel like every time you post something you're always so angry. Calm down. I'm not saying Lin will definitely be a star. I'm just saying he's had numerous moments the last three seasons where he's shown that he can be. I agree he probably won't be because he can't do it consistently for long stretches, but I'm just saying he CAN be. We'll see.
     
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    On the bench?
     
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    Wow. Are you serious?

    Really? There is NOTHING about Lin that suggests star potential?

    Take this for starters: Dropping over 30 points in two consecutive games this year.

    If you want to doubt that Lin will ever become a star, fine. But to say, in your words, nothing suggests that he could be is blind.
     

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