Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

He does a better job on WB than Lin does thats for sure

 

Agree there are few scorers that produce as much as Harden, but you need to look at usage and the fact that Lin is a PG. We don't know how much Lin would score back in NY or here in Houston for a significant period of time because of Melo and Harden, very high usage players that diminish the PG position. Same with Kobe.

Anyhow, like I said, he's a PG, and PGs are generally not asked to score first, they're asked to set up and facilitate the offense. You're essentially making an unfair comparison. A SG's job is to score, Harden is a premier SG with high usage, hence the numbers. If he didn't have the numbers he had with such high usage, I'd say get the ball out of his hands.

 

Steve Nash is old and injured so I don't count him. But those guys are still the best point guards on their teams. If someone half as good as Lin were on that team they'd be starting.

 

It depends on your team and your needs. PER is an offensive statistic and we are the highest scoring team in the league so I am not sure why you use that as your main criteria.

If Lin plays with the starters he will get a limited number of shots. Harden and Howard are always going to be the first two options and Parsons is also going to get his shots. What is the point of Lin being the fourth option?

Did you also think that it was outrageous that Harden came off the bench for OKC? How about Many for SA?

 

Maybe you should get a life? Seriously.

 

He's a developing potential star player. I'm not looking at him as a finished product. But to dismiss him as serviceable is not fair. He's more than that.

 

Jeremy sucks

 

That is simply your opinion. Lin does NOT have star potential. He is an average to above average PG and has not proven he is anything more on a consistent basis.

 

When did they do that? Dwight is a big fan of Lin's and I think wants to get more minutes of playing with him.

 

Lin didn't have high usage during Insanity?

I was responding to the post that was upset because Lin wasn't considered a star. The fact is that he isn't a star. Everything you pointed out is a possibility of what Lin could become but that isn't relevant to my point. Why get upset because others don't consider Lin a star? He isn't. I hope he turns into one but currently he isn't.

 

He is pretty good. It is just his fans who want to make him a top 10 pg or a top 10 player who are annoying.

 

No he doesn't suck either. He is a good player and he has improved.

 

Lin is better off the bench as long as he's the first option of the unit. Unless he's really sucking or another bench player is hot, I don't see why he should defer to others like Garcia or Casspi. Not sure if it's a coaching decision or he doesn't demand the ball enough.

 

Melo came back. Lin didn't need to score as much and things changed and he's a solid passer/facilitator as well as a scorer. Lin wasn't going to keep those crazy numbers up, but he showed he has star abilities. Star abilities to raise the level of his team mates and be clutch in the 4th. If you didn't witness Linsanity, you missed the real magic of what he was doing. It goes far beyond numbers. He had a star quality to the way he was playing. And he shows flashes and stretches of it since, especially when he doesn't play with a ball-dominant player or that ball-dominant player plays less ball-dominant. He's not supposed to be your primary scorer but he is still quite a strong player when he's integrated and involved in the team.

 

It was a week or two back. It's quiet clear that they like Bev starting.

 

Yes this. Melo came back so Lin had to give him the ball to score. Jeez people never see the whole picture and are so quick to just use a stat without taking other things into consideration that that time.

 

As a Rocket's fan of over 27 years (I used to hang out with some of the players before they got busted for those who remember back that far), I became a fan of Lin when he joined the Rockets. I only watched one game of Linsanity, so I wasn't following him then, but like a lot of other people, we always like to see a good underdog story.

But this treatment of what I consider a good player on the Rockets who helped greatly contribute to our playoff appearance last year, I am not hoping that he does get traded. I have been labeled a LOF for taking up for Lin on this forum, although I am a Rockets fan first; but in my 27 years of following the team, this is the worst I have felt about a player and team.

I will still always be a Rockets fan first, but they need to either get rid of the coaches or Lin. I hate to see anyone treated unfairly. Our players are not reaching their potential under the current system.

 

I've said good to describe Jeremy but he does not scream star potential, as I've said his contemporaries are Jeff Teague, Isaiah Thomas, Goran, Kyle Lowry, Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson with his absolutely highest end is Tony Parker with some development. Like I said I. Elite e he is what he is but at 24 25 yrs old you have about 3 more years of growth, with him I believe his shooting percentages and athleticism have peaked. The next step is vision, basketball awareness and experience but I think what you see is what you get with the future being less mistake prone. Even with that he won't be a star just a solid starter or 6 man.

 

And what you say is also YOUR opinion. I don't take it as a fact and Lin is definitely still developing. He has not reached his ceiling. I'm not saying he is a star now, he has star qualities and can develop into a potential star at some point. You seem to be saying that he won't ever and I don't agree with that. I think it is possible he can.

 

I was responding to the comment that NOBODY else but the Rockets would start a pg with Beverly' s per and fg%. I posted 3 cases to show that wasn't true.

As far as starting the best player at a position there are many cases where that doesn't happen. Do you think a 35 year old Michael Finley was better than the 6th man of the year Many? Sefalosia was better than Harden? Maxwell was better than McHale?

Teams don't simply start the 5 leading scorers but instead start the combinations that hive them the best chance to win.