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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. GoRox2013

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    You lost credibility by suggesting Lin should start. His turnovers are still atrocious and his defense is just as bad. Had Lin been guarding Lillard he'd dropped 30+ and controlled the game last nites. Bev's got his flaws, but he does more intangibles and his defense on the opposing guard is phenomenal. If Bev continues to shut people down, we can live with his offensive drawbacks. Lin is NOT the answer
     
  2. gene18

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    If Brooks was not injured or unable to play. he should have been substituted for BEV when we needed offensive power.
     
  3. gene18

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    Why wasn't Brooks substituted for Bev. when we needed offensive power. Books is noted to go off at times. We Lost lost the game because of offensive weakness. Our FG% was way down. If you are implying that Lin wass responsible for that run. It was Lamarcus Aldride who won the game for Portland. Lin had nothing to do with Aldridge.
     
  4. HoopFan

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    I'm going to get into the argument who is better btw. PB and Lin and who should be the starter anymore. From the way Lin was playing and his body language, you can easily see he is frustrated in a big way and he is struggling bad. I hope it was just due to being back from the injury. But I am afraid that this is not case. I will take an aggressive Lin with turnovers any day than a passive Lin trying to make a safe play. That's not his game.

    The young man is quickly losing his confidence and it seems that he doesn't know how he should play and what is his role on this team anymore. Partly, I blame this on Lin himself. Stop being a nice guy. I know he is trying to prove that he is a team player and trying to please everybody. It is kind of like DH on lakers last season. Stop doing that and be selfish sometimes. To be successful in nba, you got to have some swaggers and balls. It is a dog-eat-dog world out there. Just play your game. You are already on the bench. What more punishment (yea, I said it) you can get!!!!

    More blame should go to the coaching staff and FO for mishandling Lin during off season and this season. Way to turn an improved starter and a young playmaker with potential into an average bench player!!! Only happens in Houston:mad::mad:.
     
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    In the name of Mandela and Martin Luther King, I ask ALL OF US on this GARM to stop being racist with our comments. We are Clutch City and better than that! Judge each man that plays for the Rockets by his content/character not the color of his skin!!!
     
  6. J Hard

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    You sound idiotic
     
  7. Remii

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    Beverley cancelled out Lillard last night... So I can't really complain about him _ he did his job...
     
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    Positive ClutchFans message?
    I can't believe it!
     
  9. SportsFanatic

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    No offense to anyone in this thread this is just my own opinion but Beverly is an overrated as a defender. His defense reminds me of Sasha Vujacic he's a pesky defender will pressure you hard all game making it uncomfortable to bring the ball up the court or to even try walking it up his defense is focused around forcing the pass. The problem with both of these defenders and Harden is they let people just drive right pass them because of how much pressure they try to put on the ball. Now don't get me wrong I have no problem with Beverly starting and Lin coming off the bench but Beverly is completely overrated as a defender.
     
  10. yummyhawtsauce

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    Relax, Lin was injured coming back. You can easily tell he wasn't himself when Mo beat him easily to the hoop, and he had trouble fighting through screens. I have no doubt that he will play better in the future. I don't think he will play crazy well tonight vs GSW either, considering it's a back to back game and he had no opportunity to do drills/ get into game mode again.
     
  11. Play07

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    bev played a good game on defense and rebounded very good, the tuffness is good to have out there because howard, parsons, harden dont have that they would rather complain to refs when things dont go their way instead of just going harder on D like bev does. We are a soft team without bev.

    just wish he had a little more offense in him, as you guys can see harden needs help out there at times even parson has had to start play making more this year. Harden likes the ball but dont get it twisted and think he wants the ball every play for the whole game, he would take some more help if he could get it
     
  12. SportsFanatic

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    For all of you guys saying Beverly held Lillard shooting 1-10 from the field did you watch the game? Lillard forced a lot of bad shots off pick and rolls and missed completely wide open shots on three or four occasions. Beverly did a good job keeping the ball out of Lillards hands but thats about all every time he drove to the basket he either dished it out to a three point shooter or got fouled going to the rim. The big problem in this game was our three point shooting, we live and die by the three and last night we weren't hitting them. We had a lot of opportunities when we brought the lead close but our shot selection down the stretch was not good. Garcia and Casspi need to find their stroke because our bench production is really lacking. If we do make a trade for Asik I hope we can bring in a player who is good without the ball because watching Casspi and Garcia sit in one spot was so frustrating also can anyone tell me why Montijunas doesn't get more playing time?
     
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    Well said. Sad such a good talent is being treated like a third string player. Best course of action is probably a trade. Both parties stand to benefit from a deal. Bev will be exposed sooner or later if not already. The pg position is the spot that needs the biggest upgrade. I would consider Lin to be a big upgrade but not in Houston. Too bad the young man is not receiving the support that he needs. Not from the coaching staff, not from the front office and not from the fans in Houston. Clearly the head honcho himself clutch is not high on Lin. Hard to argue for Lin when that happens on his fan site.
     
  14. HoopFan

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    I hope you're right and I'm wrong for the sake of Rockets' success, cause Lin is not going anywhere for this season and next. So let's wait and see.

     
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    How do you lose confidence when your getting paid $8 mln dollars a year guaranteed to play basketball. Especially when Lin comes out of nowhere to make an NBA team. She should have ALL OF THE CONFIDENCE in the world to succeed. He's set for life financially, playing on a good team, gets steady mintues, and is liked by most of his teammates.

    I think his life is pretty good and I know my confidence would be sky high. As Lebron said "I ain't got no worries"! So Jlin shoot the rocket, drive, dish, do whatever you like your future is secure so rumble young man rumble!!
     
  16. Play07

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    How do the rockets always end up in a sticky situation with point guards? Debates have been going on since kenny and cassell. More recent lowry & dragic “both played great and are gone”. Now it’s the lin and bev thing which are two good players but bring total opposite things to the roster. How does this keep happening with rockets anybody know ?
     
  17. HoopFan

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    Exactly. I guess he is too much a nice guy and trying to please everybody. You simply end up please nobody including yourself. Not going to work as the case f DH on lakers last season. Play your game and forget about everything else.

     
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    well logically speaking, why would Lin's game suddenly decline? other than the fact he has not played for 2 weeks. He was playing well before he got the injury. The only thing that can hold him back is:

    1) not getting enough minutes to establish a rhythm

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    2) his confidence - which could relate to 1.

    Parsons also is playing through an injury and it may explain the 2 bad games out of 3 that he has been experiencing lately. No one complains about him. Probably because 1) He impacts the game in other ways and 2) he has played 34/38/39 minutes since he came back from his back injury

    People need to relax on Lin, it;'s like they rage 10000% in 2s as soon as Lin does something bad. Ooh Lin airballed trade him. Bev air balled 2x and almost 3-4 as well. Two other shots barely grazed the rim.

    Bev stayed in because of his defense, which has been great all game and got some key offensive rebounds, but he needs to either improve his scoring ability or at least give up the ball to make a pass for someone else to make a shot.

    Harden needed to shoot more last night. I fully expected him to shoot some 3's to bring the gap closer in last few min of game but he actually passed it up...lol really confusing.
     
  19. BackNthDay

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    We gave up 35 points in the 4th Qtr, which says nobody played D in the 4th Qtr...
     
  20. HoopFan

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    I'd argue the PB vs. Lin controversy was self created by the coaching staff prematurely during the off season as they were so high on PB. Thus the 'fit' argument.

     

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