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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Blazers 12/12/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. wolf8grandma

    wolf8grandma Rookie

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    I thought people said we win when Parsons plays? Lin can't win when he doesn't close the 4th Q. unless u let him shoot from the bench. The players that closed the game our starters lost
     
  2. thejav

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    Could have really used Brooks today..hopefully Lin is also on his way out with asik..saves 30 mil for next season..
     
  3. Doppleganger

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    They're not at fault. Didn't play long enough to even make that many shots.
     
  4. bws

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    I disagree. I think Lin is a potential Parker and he's well worth the money if used right. Chemistry is important, if you keep bringing in new pieces it takes time to make them work. Lin knows some of these players, just let him play his game and he'll be a big part of the team. But you seem dead set on trading him so that'll be what you post often.
     
  5. pnr

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    I wish Lin could have played PG with that bench unit. It was Beverley setting up the offense and Lin playing off the ball. Maybe he could have gotten something going. Also, the unit to start the fourth was playing against Lillard and Aldridge while neither Harden, Howard, or Parsons were in the game. Sampson needs to get his ish together.
     
  6. wolf8grandma

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    Parsons was playing off the bench 6-18? Bev 3-10 another bench player? they both played 40 minutes .. the bench?
     
  7. CCM721

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    They shot 25%, with each one of them playing over 15 minutes. To act like they are in no way at fault for this loss is ridiculous.
     
  8. THE DR34M

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    Wow, it was a pleasant surprise to read a post from someone who knows (and played) basketball.
     
  9. wolf8grandma

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    Parsons/Bev 23 points combined in 39 minutes of play each
     
  10. wolf8grandma

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    an unbelievable 9-28 FG parsons/Bev
     
  11. torocan

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    The bench wasn't responsible for the loss. While they were on the floor they were either near neutral or net positive. They also played VERY few minutes.

    Lin - 15 minutes, -1
    Casspi - 16 minutes, +7
    Garcia - 19 minutes, -1

    So, in a 7 point loss, the most you can attribute to the bench is ONE point of the loss. The rest came from the starters.

    That said, the roster was REALLY wierd... there's only 8 players listed on tonight's roster.

    Asik - DNP, injured thigh
    Smith - DNP, injured knee
    Montejunas - DNP
    Brewer - DNP
    Brooks - DNP

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489201

    Essentially, our entire set of Suited up players was 8 people? Really? Of which we only know of TWO injuries? I smell trade block....

    Ok, so our roster was crazy short, Lin was probably on limited minutes due to returning from injury. Still, the distribution of starter minutes was crazy.

    Howard - 42
    Tjones - 29
    Parsons - 38
    Beverley - 39
    Harden - 42

    Given we had Casspi and Garcia healthy, I don't see why we couldn't have eased some minutes here and there.

    The PnR defense had a lot problems. I saw a lack of effort to hedge on screens/picks, and then the hedger was slow to go back to the roll man and called more than a few unnecessary switches. This created some terrible mismatches. Like how does Lin or Beverley end up covering LMA?

    And our defense of LMA was pretty awful. While I sometimes think we over use the double team, LMA when he's going is someone we SHOULD be double-teaming. Where was the ball denial? Where was the attempt to force the ball out of his hands?

    The offense was terrible for the most part. Serious lack of ball movement, not nearly enough PnR. Too many dead possessions/awful forced shots due to lack of aggression from drives.

    We didn't push the ball nearly often enough. Leisurely strolling the ball up the court gave them WAY too much time to set up their defense which forced us into a half court offense WAY too much.

    And our 3 point offense? Wow, was it bad. We shot a grand total of 20 shots from behind the arc and usually average 27.6. This wasn't due to Portland's amazing 3 point defense, it was the complete lack of the use of curls, picks, screens, double-screens and ball movement to get the 3 point shooters open.

    All in all, some pretty glaring errors in the game plan. We got away from our game and it ended up killing us.

    We'll see how tomorrow looks.
     
  12. AB423

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    I hope Dwight and Chandler made up
     
  13. Wilezra

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    Great post. I'd rep you if I could.
     
  14. rubbertoe

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    Lilliard 1 for 10....+/- = +20

    Thanks bev u POS
     
  15. KlutchQT

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    Doppleganger, it's like you take acknowledging that the bench didn't play well as some personal affront to Jeremy Lin. It's just not.
     
  16. HardenWay

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    OMG you are being ridiculous. You are just showing a lack of understand regarding the sport and the role of our players.

    Beverly role is to run the offense, but it isn't to get all of the assists. His job is it manage the game. Harden and Parsons are the playmakers in the starting-line-up.

    Managing the game is NOT representing in the box score. His managing of the game is at the beginning of the play. When the ball goes up, he is not longer the playmaker. It means every player boxes out and every player is ready to get the rebound.

    If Beverly gets an offensive rebound...we get...another possession or quick second chance points. This is where manages the game again, quick bucket, find the open man or run another set.

    On the defensive end when he gets a rebound...we complete the stop and then Beverly is managing the game again.

    A good play doesn't mean Beverly is the last pass every time. His role is not the create for others on his own, that is Harden and Parsons.

    You don't need 1 player to get 10 assists for the offense to function. When it works perfectly everyone has assists.

    This theory that certain players are responsible for filling up certain stats on the box score is just irrational and wrong. It is nothing more than some precious Lin fans attacking another player. I have no time for it, on either side of this childish, immature and low IQ bickering point guard debate.

    You know who I go to if the point guard gets 11 rebounds? I go to the bigs like Jones, Casspi, Garcia for not rebounding. Being able to rebound has no relation to running the offense, you can rebound and run the offense.
     
  17. KlutchQT

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    You do realize that 1 of 10 field goals is..... good for us. Right? LOL.
     
  18. s3ts

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    Why not play Aaron Brooks?

    I might be missing something... but...

    I can't remember one time when AB played bad in Portland.

    With Garcia, Lin, Casspi shooting terribly... why did they not play AB?
     
  19. hltiki

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    because bev is superhuman
     
  20. Hous-TO-n

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    If Sampson wants to blame the loss on the bench,
    please step out. Don't hide in your nest like a cowards, please
     

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