SINCE HE CAMEBACK FROM the injury. You know, it shows what he can do when he is healthy?. do you understand?.Prior to that the guy could hardly move and had to endup sitting out because of how bad his injury was. If you cant understand the point then there is no helping you.
Lol. Don't mind the town idiot. Guilty of doing what he hates on LOS for. Rain is wet, sky is blue and smeegol is a moron. Ibf he uses the word agenda.
FG% is pretty much useless when you are comparing a SG's FG% to a Center's FG%. They literally don't even compare because Centers always gets more shots around the rim and in Drummonds case a lot of dunks and put backs which naturally makes it higher than most guards. That's like saying Pau Gasol was better than Kobe, Lebron, Melo because he has a higher fg%. There aren't a lot of metrics that can be used to unbiasedly compare a center and a guard because their roles are completely different. And FG% and TO's as mentioned certainly don't work here. The truth is FG% don't really mean much unless they are really low or really high, for most guards they hover around 45% and it's normal. And yes there are way better stats that tell the whole story such as TS%, eG% and PPP (point per possessions) that takes in freethrows, three pointers that FG% ignores.
just a guessing game since they´re projecting the future of all these players. i really like the greek freak, 18th in the list. But its just educated guesses
George overrated? I dont think so. Maybe on CF seeing as people are throwing him as the 3rd best player in the league (which he isn't far from) He's not LeBron or KD, but he's better than a majority 99% of the other players in the league. Maybe 2 years ago. Griffin has worked on his game and is the real deal now. Post moves are being developed, mid range shot is being developed, defense is another story but he can definitely protect the rim at times. Definitely a great player though.
Dude, don't stop there... you were in no way over the top. This dude is absolutely clueless about advanced statistics. Houstunna, you're from Australia... that's cool. Don't get your back up against a wall. take a second, breathe, and LEARN. You're new... if you stick around, your analysis going forward will be MUCH better for takign part in this stie. FG%, as a stat itself, is absolutely useless. Only in the most indirect and disingenuous ways does it tell you how efficient a player has been. You've been provided better stats, but if you want even more, in addition to TS%, eFG%, you can look at points per shot, offensive rating, shot charts that alls peak to a player's offensive efficiency better than FG%. As it relates to Drummond, I understand the upside, but would not put him above Harden. The only reason he is so on this list is because of his age... which is fair... EXCEPT it's not clear how his offensive arsenal will develop. If his upside is Dwight Howard v2.0, I'd take Harden TODAY over that. In today's NBA, Dwight Howard v1 or v2 can't lead you to a title. James Harden at least has that ability. You can give Harden the ball, in the final 5 minutes, and have him close out games. You are concerned about Dwight even being on the floor. Harden is a more efficient offensive player than Drummond. When I factor in the efficiency creep that will inevitably happen IF Drummond ever becomes more of an offensive force (actually tries to be a post up player) than that will be even more pronounced.. though I guess you could argue he can't possibly not improve from the FT line. James, on the other hand, still has room for his efficiency to improve. He's shooting a career low 3 point %, and still has a TS% of 60%. I don't even care about turnovers. Yes, Harden averages a lot more. He's also the principal ball-handler/creator on his team. He has a much higher usage rate, which makes the turnover % between the two closer, though clearly still Drummond is better at not turning the ball over. Again, though, IF Drummond is to realize the potential that has him above Harden on this list, then he HAS to become more of an offensive force, which will increase his usage and undoubtedly increase his turnovers. Somewhat lost in Drummond's "breakout" year is that his improvement has as much to do with his increase in playing time as anything. On a per minute basis, he is better, but not meaningfully so. I love love love Drummond's game and season thus far. I'm not sold on the fact that he'll ever develop an offensive arsenal even close to resembling what the great post men of the past had. In his career to date, I believe he's made 4 shots outside the paint in total (one of which was a lucky three). Add in his 38% FT percentage, and I question the offensive upside. But with another 5 mpg, some FT improvement, etc. could he squeak up to be a 18-20 mpg type player AND become an even more dominant rebounder and defender? Possible, certainly, at his peak, he might give you 20 ppg on crazy good efficiency, 15 rpg, a couple blocks per game. And that would be Dwight at his best. And again, I'd still rather have Harden at his best than Dwight at his best... as positionally that's the way the NBA has gone. Do I take Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem over Harden? Of course. Frankly, I take those guys over Kobe, too. But I can't see Drummond ever becoming anythign clsoe to the all around package those players were. As it relates to the list overall... but I have issues with some other items as well. Kawhi Leonard... this guy has to stop being so ridiculously overrated. Did he have a solid Finals? Yes. As the 4th most important player on the team (Parker, Duncan, Green/Ginobili). He was great in both Game 6/7 against the Heat last year and it didn't really matter. Danny Green's performance had the bigger impact. Granted, the list gets kind of crappy in 15-25, but there's still guys below Leonard, which if we are going on upside (apparently we are given Drummond ahead of Harden), I'd take before Kawhi every day of the week. Also, as has been mentioned MCW is way too low. /book
He's also a 35% free throw shooter who can't clog the lane and has below average individual and team defense. He doesn't get very many blocks and he's nowhere near as springy as Dwight ever was. James is way way way better than Drummond could ever dream to be.
Rankings for present talent level should look more like this: 1) Harden 2) Davis 3) George 4) Griffin 5) Drummond Rankings for future potential: 1) Davis 2) Drummond 3) Harden 4) George 5) Griffin
Speaking solely on that statement alone, that is incorrect. In that logic, is there no difference in a player that shoots 50% compared to 20% from the field? Why do teams activate hack-a-Howard if % means nothing? We won a game against LA last season vs Dwight solely based off playing percentages. % doesn't tell the whole story but it does matter.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=haywago01&y1=2014&p2=parsoch01&y2=2014#per_game::none Please note that Hayward's FG% is 39.6 while Parsons' is 51.8. Also, from 3 Parsons is shooting 39.8% while Hayward is shooting 29.1%. In essentially every other stat they are comparable. Although he is younger than Parsons he is also shorter and scrawnier. Parsons plays better defense.
