Sources: Dwight isn't "thrilled" with PG situation.

Yeah, that is hard for me to understand.

If Harden demands the ball anyway, why do you need a pass first PG?

 

Oh please! Stop bringing this up. It was never real. It was all hypothetical. Yes if Howard said no to the Rockets we were going to try to get CP3, but that was moot early on when CP3 resigned. The reality was that CP3 used us as a pawn to get Doc Rivers. The cap numbers were never going to work with a "big 3" unless Howard and CP3 agreed to take less than max. Even if the money worked out, Harden would've had to agree to be the 3rd banana again.

All the Lin/Harden ball dominate guard stuff has been talk about over and over since Lin's slow start last year. You or any other newbie will never change the fact that Harden is most efficient when he's driving to the basket and drawing fouls. I believe he was #2 in made FTs. You don't pay the max to spot up shooters.

 

I agree that Dwight is a poor post player ... exactly the reason I want a PG on this team that can maximize his effectiveness there.
We have seen in the past where a great PG can have a dramatic positive impact on post players with even less skills than Dwight (Paul with Tyson in NO, Kidd with Kenyon in NJ ...).
Not that Deron will suddenly turn Dwight into Hakeem, but at the very least the days of our $20M Center scoring less than 15 points should cease.
If DeAndre Jordan can average 10 PPG just off putbacks and lob dunks from CP3, there is no reason Dwight should not be able to double that with a guy like DWill getting him 4-5 additional open, easy shots.

I hate the idea of paying a guy $20M a year to rebound and play defense ... we already had that in Asik for less than half the price.
Now that the team is built around Harden and Dwight, I want the coaches and GM to focus on acquiring the players that will maximize the effectiveness of the 2 stars.
I don't see a potential acquisition that can do more for Dwight than a pass-first PG who gets him the easy points he cannot get on his own.

As for Harden, to get an idea of what I'm talking about with his energy affecting the rest of his game, think about what happened to OKC and Durant last year after Westbrook went down.
Forced into becoming the Thunder's primary play-maker and ball-handler by necessity, KD's overall production suffered immensely, and so did his team's.

Obviously losing a top-10 talent like Westbrook was the main reason the Thunder lost in the 2nd round last year, but the extra drain on Durant was equally obvious.

Those 2 are also a perfect counterpoint to the "Harden needs the ball in his hands all the time" argument as well.
Everybody assumes Harden's effectiveness will be hurt playing next to a PG who has the ball more.
I couldn't disagree more.
Nobody is as ball-dominant or shot-happy as Westbrook at PG, but that hasn't stopped KD from becoming the premier scorer in the entire league or leading the league in scoring several times playing next to Westbrook.
Hell, he even flourished and won scoring titles playing with 2 ball-dominant guards when Harden was still around, and in crunch time, they had all 3 on the court together most of the time.

If those 3 can play well enough together to make the Finals 2 years ago, I see no reason a 3rd player like Deron cannot play with Harden and Howard effectively.

The other benefit of bringing in guy a like DWill at PG is the improved diversity in crunch time.
We know Hack-a-Dwight is here to stay, so he is not an option in the 4th Q when you need points.

I, for one, am already sick of McHale's 'give-the-ball-to-Harden-and-stand-around-watching' offense at the end of games.
Way too much Steve & Cat circa 2002 deja vu for me.

The same thing happened again under supposed offensive genius Adelman's watch.
Teams could eliminate our big man (Yao) in crunch time by fronting him, thereby forcing the team into standing around and waiting for the 1 creative offensive player on the team (Tmac) to do everything.
I am sick of watching the same thing happen with Harden.

I want a guy, other than Harden, the Rockets can rely on to get his own points or create shots for others when it really matters.
Deron is certainly this kind of guy, and that's yet another reason I want him or someone like him starting at PG on this team.

 

If Lin keeps up 15 ppg on 50/40/80 shooting the. Yes he is worth 8.3 mil a yr. now if he plays like last yr then no he's not worth that, more like 4 mil a yr. I think if Lin hit the open market this offseason a team would give him a 4/28 mil deal. His potential is worth the gamble for small market teams, now on a team like the rockets I dont think his 8.3 mil a yr contract is a great fit. It could be used on more glaring needs than 6th man scorer. Either way his contract has to go to parsons and it's almost a guarantee he won't be on the rockets past next season to no fault of his own, hes played extremely well and even been the best player on the team some nights but that's the problem. He will get offered over 7 mil a season when his contract is up and that's just more than the rockets need to spend on their backup/scorer off the bench. Now if he wants to take a pay cut and play for 6 mil a season I'm down with that but Lin isn't dumb he's gonna get his money and starting spot some where and it won't be here.

Enjoy this team while it lasts cause the only parts staying are harden/Howard and parsons unless we get Lebron/Durant/George.

 

agree.

 

hey whats up dude hope youre having a good day, know reason to get upset.

but your post is all over the place, and sense im a "newbie" that may mean I dont know what im talking about so I would rather not respond.

MILOS on this page just gave a good breakdown of a pass first PG, maybe sense hes not a "newbie" 2001 poster you can read that for a better breakdown, but I agree with everything he just said, thats what my post was about but he went more in depth. Peace

 

That's close to Harden's number last year in OKC, and Morey offered him max next year...

 

Hardens also 6'6 230 lbs has a 38 inch vert and was 21 yrs old putting up those numbers on a finals team as the 3rd option. Lin is neither of those, look I just had a long post about how I think Lin is a fine player and worth his contract with his play this yr, with that said he's not any where near hardens level of talent or play on the court. Hardens a true franchise player and proved that by age 23 whe Lin was 23 he was fighting to stay in the league.i know it's easy to pick on harden cause he's the face of the franchise and it's best player so we expect nothing short of excellence every night. The reality is he's only 24 and been a starter for 100 games. Hardens potential is best player in the game status what he does on offense is so rare that it's only been done by a few players ever. Don't believe me look it up his season last yr has only been accomplished by a few players (Lebron,MJ,bird) he's a special player and hof talent. How he's played the last 2 games is his true ceiling and as you can see it's really high and not obtainable by but 2 others players in the game (lbj/KD)

 

Wrong. I disagree. You wanna call out people as LOF's when, no matter how much Lin approves, you're always gonna hate. Lin makes bonehead plays? Well so does Harden... every game.

Lin's been earning his money 100% on his numbers alone. And if you measured earning your money with effort, he'd be up there near the top of the list on this team. So who's more overpaid- Lin or Harden?

 

$8.3m is for an average point guard's salary. If Lin keeps putting these numbers up, he will likely make $10m -$12m.

 

Interesting... I don't think DaDakota or I signed up after 12 or 13. I think Lin is earning his pay check this year.

 

The position needs the most upgrade is the coach. You are basically talking about making a better harden. ThAt is the coach's job. It is not done by adding another player. Even we add Dwill, the same **** will happen.

 

Stop feeding one of the most famous troll here.

 

I know… I know… lol

I love how he never responds though when people prove him wrong.

 

linsanity's teammates in NY: Jeffries, walker, fields, chandler, bibby, novak, shumpert while Carmelo and stoudemire were injured. who would you want from that lineup? chandler for howard? think not. shumpert for parsons? nope. I don't see westbrook or Durant in that lineup.

 

I don't think you understand NBA salaries

 

His patience might finally be paying off. The question: will Rondo make Dwight happier than Beverlin?

 

Dat Foreshadowing

 

Lmao. Harden is 6'5'' 220 pounds with a 37 inch vertical. Don't add a plus one to everything.

 

If Morey makes a high risk deal just to make Dwight happy, then he is not as smart as we think.