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Jeremy Lin out 2 weeks with grade one knee sprain (UPDATE: Will return vs. Portland)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thesonofsam, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. Spiegel

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    The Italian guy hitting all those 3's and scoring on some crazy shots had a part to. Parker was not the sole reason.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Go check the play by play yourself on NBA.com for that game. The last 4 minutes of the 1st half, Parker went on a 10-0 run.
     
  3. KlutchQT

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    LOL. Belinelli, who was the only Spur who scored for like the first 6 minutes or so of the 4th quarter. Parker did start the comeback, though. But some of the people who keep bringing that game up to suggest that Bev should have stopped Parker altogether are the same ones who (correctly) defended Lin by arguing that it would take more than one person to stop Chris Paul. As I've said in other threads, I think there are a significant number of posters who don't understand the concept of team/help defense and how man-to-man defense is affected when the former is lacking.
     
  4. King1

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    Why would I get into a drawn out discussion with someone who isn't a Rockets fan? It's a complete and utter waste of time. I'm not trying to change your perspective because nothing I could say would do that. You are here to argue for Jeremy Lin. Nothing more nothing less.
     
  5. visible

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    You should be a good laywer. Any job other than that, would be a waste for your talent.

    Good debate as always.
     
  6. TexasRedd

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jeremy Lin says he will play in Portland Thursday night.</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/statuses/410493703652769794">December 10, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  7. visible

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    Good news.
     
  8. pwnyxpress

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    I don't disagree, but I do find it ironic how last season, anyone using this defense for Lin would be hated on as a LOF all day 'err day hahaha.
     
  9. KlutchQT

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    I really want to know what logic is utilized by those people who argue that Lin is a crappy defender because CP3 put up X pts against him, or that Bev is a "defensive liability" because Tony Parker went on a run.

    I don't hear anybody calling Paul George a crappy defender when KD goes off, as he is prone to do. Didn't hear anybody calling Lebron a crappy defender when PG went off that whole series. Good players will go off. Good players will go on runs. But seems like our guys are held to a different (and unrealistic) standard.
     
  10. pwnyxpress

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    Are you even serious? I've only randomly read some of torocan's posts throughout this thread and even a few others. Since I have no prior opinion as to him or you or larvs8 or whoever, I am some dubious of the statement that he is a LOF. I just read another thread where he responded to a person bashing Bev that the sample size was too small and that it was not good evidence of Bev's defense being overvalued!

    As annoying as LOFs are, over the past yr, I've found LOHs much worse. At least you see LOFs coming a mile away, and they are often times almost caricatures of themselves so that YOU almost can't believe they believe what they're saying. Most LOHs, however, actually think they are being rational and correct...that irritates me to no end haha.
     
  11. torocan

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    Ah, I see. You don't want to contribute to the discussion, you would instead rather just snipe from the peanut gallery.

    In other words, your are posting exclusively to Troll. Well, glad that you've made your motives are clear.

    You're not interested in a discussion or debate. You are not interested in espousing a view other than "I don't agree!" and "You are biased!". You are not interested in the dissemination of information, or analysis and interpretations of that information.

    Then why are you posting in Lin threads at all? Oh wait, you already made that clear.

    Feel free to keep trolling. :cool:
     
  12. langal

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    Actually it seems that Lin is the one that is held to a different standard. There are still people on this board who thinks he can't "hang" with the Parkers, Lawsons, etc. and does not belong in the NBA.

    When someone points out the Bev is hardly "locking down" opposing pgs, they get the LOF label.

    I'm sure some of it just anti-LOF angst.
     
  13. pwnyxpress

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    So much truth.
     
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    No not really.

    Parker was the initiator, he scored 10 points in a roll, but the Spurs were still down 11 points at half-time.

    Parker only scored 6 points against Beverley in the 2nd half. In total he was 6-15 in the 2nd half.

    The only thing that matters is what Parker did throughout the whole game, and even if he was on fire for a short period of time, it doesn't stop the fact that he was a volume scorer in that game who took a tremendous amount of shots to get his 27.

    I'm sure any team out there would be more than satisfied with their defense if Tony Parker scored 27 points on 27 shots.
     
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    Pg defense is the least impactful. Why are most top pgs mediore on that end? Cause they are relied on to run the offense in the same aim as the centers are relied on to hold down the defense. If a pg is elite defensively, they are probably specialists who play next to offensively gifted wingmen.
     
  16. King1

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    Please point out the inaccuracies or my statement since I'm trolling.

    Are you a Knicks fan?
    Are you here because of Jeremy Lin?

    Once you answer "yes" to both of those of those you can take a look back at what you wrote and tell me how it's correct.

    Good luck with that
     
  17. King1

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    He is a LOF. Ask him who he's here for
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    You probably don't do this, but you do see the irony if Lin's opponent runs off 10 straight points many posters here would call for his beheading.

    My intent behind my posts in this thread are not to discredit Beverly but to rather apply the same standards to Beverly and Lin. In my opinion whether you view it rational or not, Lin is scrutinized for things that Beverly also does yet you do not witness an equal amount of scrutiny.
     
  19. Sydeffect

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    This is not true. Rose was above average on defense, Paul is an elite defender, John Wall is close to elite on defense, Conley is a fantastic defender.
     
  20. KlutchQT

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    I personally have never seen anyone say that Jeremy Lin doesn't belong in the NBA, so I can't comment on that. I'm strictly talking about the unrealistic defensive expectations to which they have both been subjected this season. There's a difference between saying Bev didn't lock down Tony Parker (which, again, is not a thing any single player can do on his own) and characterizing him as a "defensive liability" because Tony Parker Tony Parker'ed. I continue to say the same thing about those who like throwing that first Clips game up as evidence that Lin is useless on defense. Good players will be good players, and I just don't see guys on other teams getting ripped for being a liability on defense when their elite match-ups have high-scoring games.
     

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