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Is it just me or are the Warriors incredibly overrated?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by BonziWellsGOAT, Dec 9, 2013.

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  1. Houst0ne

    Houst0ne Member

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    Well we lost to the Jazz..I wouldn't call them overrated they aren't ranked high anyway
     
  2. VBG

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    I'm gonna disagree from what I've seen from the Warriors. They've used Iggy as the backup PG ever since Toney Douglas was out. At least every game I've seen.
     
  3. FoOLiSh_AzN

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    ^^Finally someone who actually watches the Warriors game instead of highlights lol
     
  4. VBG

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    I wish I could edit but I'm kinda confused. Iggy being in when Curry is out to run the offense is pretty much what I mean. Iggy is the backup playmaker with Curry out.
     
  5. Aleron

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    Is there a point to saying you disagree with the NBA's data tracking? it's like saying you're going to choose to be wrong.

    If anything, it shows that their starting lineup is what suffers without Iggy, look at their 2 top used lineups.
     
  6. FoOLiSh_AzN

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    Warriors 3rd/4th string point guards(bazemore and Nedovic) are not ready to play big/heavy minutes, their just not that good. Speights who replaced Landry, SUCKS! Warriors need to get rid of this out-of-shape bum who doesn't rebound and just shoots mid-range jumpers.
     
  7. VBG

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    Wut? You're arguing something completely different. When Steph is out, Iggy is in as the backup PG.

    Out of Iggy's 10 most common 4 man units, only 3 have Steph Curry in them. My argument is simply that when Curry is out Iggy is usually running point. Klay and Curry also spend time with the bench units.

    Klay has played 8 more games than Iggy. That's more than 50% more games. He's also played 40% more minutes.

    So who do you think would show up in a more minutes list?

    Context matters.

    Using stats doesn't forgive stupidity.
     
  8. nolimitnp

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    And lost Landry and Jack. I remember seeing some advanced stats last year of FG% against within 5 feet of the paint. David Lee was last giving up 66%. Larry Sanders was first at 37%.

    I guess every player is susceptible to an ankle injury, but just watching Curry, particularly with that weak frame, it just looks like it's a matter of time before he's out for a month or two.
     
  9. KlutchQT

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    I think a lot of people are sleeping on the Warriors. Losing Jack and Landry was a huge hit for them, but Iggy is a huge defensive upgrade. When healthy, they are a really good team that can make another significant playoff run this year. I wouldn't mind facing them, as they seem to be one of our better match-ups, for whatever reason.
     
  10. KlutchQT

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    And we lost to the Jazz, who have a MUCH worse record than the Bobcats. And Miami lost to the Sixers. Don't understand why people use this argument.
     
  11. BonziWellsGOAT

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    "He sees you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake...." :eek:
     
  12. KlutchQT

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    ^^ Creepy lol. Not really related to the current Warriors squad, but I really hate that Jarrett Jack ended up in the hot mess that is Cleveland. Talk about wasted talent. Bleh.
     
  13. Kim

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    What's their record with and without Iggy?
     
  14. Kid Canada

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    They just have to find their grove. One of the most dangerous teams in the West and I certainly would like the Rockets to avoid them.
     
  15. KlutchQT

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    8-5 with
    4-5 without
     
  16. Zoplicone

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    Igoudala for sure makes that big of a difference. They are one of our better match ups because honestly, there aren't many matchups that favor our team.
     
  17. Rox11

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    As if we didn't lose to the lakers, jazz, and suns right?
     
  18. Pull_Up_3

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    lol at the people saying we lost to the suns, jazz etc

    were 15-7 theyre 12-10

    there is youre difference
     
  19. Houst0ne

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    You failed to put the Jazz record up lol
     
  20. Yang_Wenli

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    Not counting Houston, the Warriors' loss so far include: 2x against Memphis, then one loss against Spurs, Clippers, Lakers, Portland, Mavs, OKC, and Bobcats.
    All with records of .500 or better (except Charlotte at 10-11.) Notably they lost against Spurs within 2 points, and against OKC at overtime with Westbrook's miracle shot, so they could have been 14-8.

    Getting Iggy makes the Warriors much better, but they sacrificed their bench depth for that acquisition. Just like how the Rockets lost to the Sun and Jazz because of missing players, the Warriors is also missing a few of their players too. I do think they are overrated, but that doesn't mean they're not good.
    As for which team, Rockets or Warriors, is better, I think it's hard to say right now because neither team has reached its full potential yet. The difference should be clear once we reach the playoff.
     

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