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Do you feel the emergence of Jones makes up for drafting White?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RV6, Dec 9, 2013.

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Yes or no?

Poll closed Dec 14, 2013.
  1. Yes

    66.3%
  2. No

    33.7%
  1. monster

    monster Member

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    I don't mind that we took a shot on White. You win some, you lose some.

    Now let's never mention his name on Clutchfans again.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    This. If you disagree you hate America.
     
  3. meh

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    The Jones pick didn't make me feel better about White's pick. JAMES HARDEN made me feel better about the White's pick. And Dwight Howard has bumped White out of my mind.

    It's all about body of work with GMs. And Morey's body of work allow me to accept deals like trading for TWill, drafting White, Morris, etc.

    That said, I still will not forgive Morey for passing on Paul George. If only because I clamored on this board about how George was the perfect "high risk high reward" player the Rockets need to gamble on. And I'm usually wrong with the draft. So I need to hammer a point in whenever I'm actually correct. :)
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    It was a bad pick. It was a bad pick when he made it(not hindsight), and it became worse because we basically had to give a team a foreign prospect just to get rid of him.

    Having said that it certainly wasn't a big deal, it happens, but it doesn't absolve the Rockets of a very stupid decision. Jones has nothing to do with it.
     
  5. HardenWay

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    There was nothing wrong with drafting White. He still had all-star potential and drafting 3 guys with that potential was part of the plan of finding a star and getting an asset.

    Lamb was part of getting Harden, Jones is reaching his potential and White flopped. Drafting those 3 was just improving the odds of finding a star.
     
  6. thesonofsam

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    Morey has balls. He had 3 first round picks and used one to take a risk on a boom or bust guy. How many 16th picks turn out to be really good players? Morey doesn't have to "make up" for anything. This thread is dumb.
     
  7. Benchwarmer

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    Royce White was a total bust, even worse than an Adam Morrison or Chris Wilcox, at least those guys showed up at practice and came to play. "Jelly Rolls" Royce did not even show up to play in the D-League.

    The only way to make up for that great of a mistake would be to draft a real superstar like Kevin Durant or Lebron.
     
  8. RV6

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    The question is not loaded because the White pick has already failed. It's not a false assumption. If this were during their first season, then it would be a loaded question, since it was still an ongoing experiment. Saying it was a good risk at the time doesn't not change the fact that it turned out to be a bad pick.
     
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  9. thesonofsam

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    Both of those guys were lottery picks. Big difference. And I cant tell if that second part was sarcasm because you cant be serious. Morey brought 2 stars here and has made a ton of good draft picks.
     
  10. RV6

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    I never said Morey had to take action to make up for it. Morey drafted the guys he wanted, not based on who would make up for another pick. It's up to the coaches to really develop them and put them in the right situation. So, it's the current emergence of Jones that would make up for the pick, like the title says.
     
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  11. bucket

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    That's a reasonable opinion, but I think we should judge decisions based on the information available at the time they were made. Given the low historical value of 16th picks, the fact we had two other first rounders, and the need at the time to find a star player, it's my opinion that picking White was a smart risk to take.
     
  12. thesonofsam

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    But him having to "make up" for it is was is annoying. Why? Morey went 2 for 3 on that draft (No matter what Lamb does he counts as a win because he got us Harden) which is way better than most GMs do. His good picks far outweigh his bad and obviously drafting is not an exact science. Why does he have to "make up" for White. He had an extra pick and took a risk, it didn't work out but the other two did. I'll take that any day.
     
  13. ryano2009

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    I blame McHale for drafting White
     
  14. DreamShook

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    How did Morey pass on George? He was already off the board when Rockets were picking.
     
  15. RV6

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    We're taking about two different things. You're discussing if the pick was a good one at the time, but I'm discussing it now that we know how out turned out.
     
  16. ZNB

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    How did he pass on George when he was drafted 10th and Houston had the 14th pick?
     
  17. RV6

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    I just wrote he doesn't/didn't have to. I'm not sure what else you want me to say. I'm not complaining about Morey's picks. The White pick didn't work out, that's not taking a shot at Morey, it's a fact.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    Lol I guess folks don't understand that Royce is not only a normal bust.
    He is one of the worst in history. Thank God he wasn't a lottery pick.
    He toyed with a ballclub, held it hostage for a year.
    This is borderline criminal.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Morey is a smart smart GM but I would not trust him entirely as I would not trust the best GM in the business. Everyone makes a mistake.

    Morey deserved to pick in the high lottery.
     
  20. H-townRedOx

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    with 3 draft picks, Morey chose to take a risk by taking White. I always felt Jones was a sure-thing in terms of talent, and I believe Morey did as well, which would explain why he felt comfortable taking a risk on White. Taking risks at that point in the draft makes sense though, since projected EWA for anything after the 10th pick is usually pretty low for the duration of the rookie contract. This means that it is the perfect time to take a risk on someone with an extremely high ceiling since even if they totally bust, you still aren't losing much compared to expected value.
     

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