Sources: Dwight isn't "thrilled" with PG situation.

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P.S. I like Lowry a lot and I think it would be great for him to get out of that dysfunctional black hole of Toronto.

But who knows, maybe it will be better now that Rudy is going to the Kings.

 

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starts at 2:10 Howard talking about lin, harden & championship

Howard on harden
-harden is one of the best 2 guards in the NBA and will only get better

howard on lin
-excited to play with him
-I think we have the ability to be dangerous in the P & R
-His ability to pass off screens and shoot off screens is great
-i think it can be dwinsanity

Rockets now
we needed lin to be 6th man & bev to start for defense so we don’t see what howard had plans for.

People often talk about Howard not wanting to run to P&R & effort on screens but before he ever played a game in Houston he was talking about running P&R and setting screens and being excited about doing it for the record.

This is long thread about opinions on howard and a pG but these are the only facts we can go off from what howard has said.

 

IIRC, his complaint was wanting an "elite" PG. Is Lowry suddenly elite?

 

I nominate this post for ignorant post of the year - specifically for the reference to taking two solid complementary backups - infusing them into one and increasing height and somehow coming away with less than what we have.

Sir, if you were trying to make a point - you failed miserably and lost all credibility while trying. Congrats.

pst... i'll give you a hint. when you have a sharing two guard like Harden, you need more of a floor spacer than a distributor at the 1. If he plays defense (Beverly) even better. were you to add a true PG in the mold of Rondo, you would risk clogging the lanes - destroying spacing and bogging down the offense.

 

bc some guy said that some guy he trusts told him that he is not happy but is going to try to make it work?

 

You don't need a point guard when you have LBJ, WADE, and BOSH. You can plug anyone in at PG and they will still win the chips. Dallas won in 2011 with a nobody PG name Jason Kidd.

The idea that PBev is a good or even a starting PG in this league is laughable. I'm a Rocket's fan but I'm no dummy. I've seen my fair share of good, bad, and average PG to know the difference.

 

so beverly is a flood spacer? you feel confident with beverly shooting 3s?? he is alot of things, and I like him as a player, but come on he is not a floor spacer.

 

I dont know what the problem is, if you consider the rise of TJones, and howard parsons and harden maning the other positions, starting pg would be the position that would need the biggest upgrade.

 

So your saying Lin and Beverly are better than Jason Kidd and Derick Fisher correct?

 

I don't believe Tony Parker was considered a great point guard when San Antonio was winning their championships and they haven't won one since they turned over the team to him... Same with Rondo in Boston. In my opinion Magic and Isaiah Thomas are the last two great point guards to win a championship...

But I don't know if Morey is going to stick with both Lin and Beverley for the long term and I believe Canaan is going to be in the mix before long...

 

During those three championships I'd have to agree. Obviously not in comparison to the young Jason Kidd.

 

get me someone with beverly's ball hawking skills that shoots 40% from 3 and I'm all over it. Til then, I'll take him at 33% with change of pace guards in Lin and Brooks.

And more to the point - if you were able to merge brooks and beverly, regardless of height - that's one hell of a pg

 

Magic and Isaiah might be the last two MVP type players LISTED as PG's to win the title (I think Magic was listed as a SF the majority of the games played), but that doesn't mean there weren't great Point guards on teams that won the title... its just that the true "point guards" on their team weren't always listed as the PG... like Magic with the Lakers, Lebron with the Heat, Pippen with the Bulls, Wade with the first Heat title etc.

If the argument here is whether or not the Rockets need a true allstar quality PG to win the title, my answer is an emphatic NO... Harden is the main facilitator for the perimeter that can the talent to be a finals MVP type of player from the perimeter to classify as the "point guard" on an championship team much like Wade with the Heat on their first title run.

However do the Rockets need an upgrade.... probably. I like all 3 guards guards in the rotation, but I think they could use an upgrade in the starting lineup and keep Lin in the 6th man role. Beverley could easily slide back into the 4th guard in the rotation who is used more as a specialist than as someone who is relied on to contribute for 30 minutes + a night.

I think an upgrade at the position can come in a variety of different ways that doesn't necessarily come for the Rockets blowing up the team to get a deal done. I look for Morey to be very opportunistic in the coming future, wouldn't be shocked if there are multiple high upside prospects he's viewing in the upcoming draft that can be steals outside the lottery, and wouldn't be shocked if he puts more than 4 PG's on the roster at some point in time later on this year if they waive someone like Brewer and they get the opportunity to bring on another prospect like Philly did with Wroten.

 

ofcourse if you wanted a pg who can match the defensive tenacity of bev, playmaking skils of lin and have size but cost around the same range as lin, we could have just kept dragic. I think he would have made this team so much better

 

Really? So you think teams are just going to ignore someone standing behind the arc who is hitting 33% of his threes for this season and 35% for his career? I don't think so buddy.

Beverley has been spacing the floor. That is a fact. What are you basing your future projections on?

 

I honestly don't think Bev is the problem. I think if you have good offensive weapons at the other three positions you are fine with a PG who can contribute 10 points with good defense. PGs have the least impact on a team IMO because theyre so short compared to the other positions, unless you have a truly elite playmaking PG like CP3. For this team to win a championship, you need to look at upgrading to a Durant or Lebron type player.

 

LOFs should be happy. Beverley is not shooting well, and that means more minutes for Lin.

 

The irony of this post talking about ignorance. I don't mind you posting whatever random thoughts you have, but don't respond to a post that you're not even going to address.

The topic is that neither Beverly or Brooks can create shots. Therefore even if you blend their best abilities together, you get a shooting guard and even then not a better shooting guard than Harden. Hence, back up SG.

This leads to the 2nd topic that this team needs more shot creators. You're delusional in thinking Harden can create 100% of the shots on our team or maybe you're just ignoring the fact that Harden can't be on the court 100% of the time an entire season. What if he has an off night? What if we play a team with a good lock down defender? What if Harden gets injured again? What about the 2nd unit? We need another creator. We have another tweener guard in Lin to create, but I would prefer a true PG instead. Even then, Harden would benefit from a true PG on the court with him to reduce his usage rate and spread out the defense so there's more than one driving threat on the permieter.

Not sure why your first knee jerk reaction to true PG is Rajon Rondo, but whatever, it's not like you were discussing the topic at hand anyways.

 

I see beverley as an backup PG
He is a great defender with a lot of energy but hes 3pt% is poor and he must be one of the PG with the lowest A per game
Off course Hardens game doesnt help with his A

I think the PG position is where we need an upgrade
Maybe we can get nelson for chips as a rental and wait for the next season with cap space to see what can we get there.

 

good post