[ESPN] Who will go number 1: Bridgewater vs. Clowney

Yes, safer usually wins when it's the Texans. Sure they have no need for a DE, but that doesn't mean they wont draft and trade him (or Watt). They could just trade away the pick, but I think Bridgewater fills in one of our biggest needs. Schaub is out of the league, and who knows what we can expect next season from the undrafted Keenum. Sure he needed a better offensive line, but he also needs to improve his game.

 

If Teddy's game translates well to the NFL, we will regret it. We pretty much know what we can expect from Clowney. The Texans defense would improve with him right away since he won't need time to develop his game and learn a new system like Bridgewater will. Also, Teddy's size worries me.

I'm glad I don't have to make the pick. If I had to pick today, I would tell McNair the best player available is Clowney and the best prospect is Teddy. Do you want to develop a QB who can be really good - almost great, or ride with Keenum who's shown flashes that he can be a good NFL QB and significantly improve the defense.

I guess Clowney makes more sense. I've convinced myself.

Mario Williams - DE
VY - QB

Jussayin'

 

I disagree... Barr and Mack are just as much "blue chip" players as Clowney and Bridgewater... I'm not even sure Bridgewater is a blue chip prospect. It's several defensive studs in this draft and QBs who are probably just as good if not better that can be drafted later.

And if the Texans bring in Lovie _ he's going to be the one running this coming draft. Smith will be working under his direction.

 

Johnny Football, Hundley, Boyd, Carr, AJ, etc _ some of these guys will be available in the 2nd. Teddy played against a lot of cupcake defenses and he didn't look like a number 1 draft pick against Houston.

 

I'm pretty sure you don't know who Bridgewater is. To get you kicked off on research he plays quarterback for Louisville.

I understand not wanting to take him first overall but all your reasons are completely off base.

 

Speculate as much as we like, it all comes down to the coaching staff and hopefully new gm and what fits the new regime. I would love to see them invest in talent by trading down instead of putting all eggs in one basket.

 

Bridgewater would be like the fourth QB taken in next years qb draft. He isn't worth the first pick.Clowney is though. See who falls down to the 33rd pick for qb.

 

I think more likely it comes down to Bob McNair. If he thinks Case Keenum is his starter then they trade down or go after Barr. I doubt he agrees to Clowney that's just not his type of character player. But if he doesn't believe in Case then you got to get a QB with that 1st pick and Bridgewater is the only one worthy.

 

It doesn't seem like Clowney is a McNair type of player but I think it will really come down to the interview. If he goes Reggie Bush and starts taking calls during the interview he'll be out, but if he can be sincere and convincing I think he can still be in the running.

 

I would not say it's crappy, just not good. Last year was a crappy year to have the #1 pick. The Texans will definitely look into what you're suggesting with how deep this draft is, but that team would have to really want Bridgewater/Clowney (most likely Clowney).

That doesn't bother me much. He is good enough and doesn't need to practice. He doesn't want to risk getting injured because he knows he will go top 5. NCAA teams do not pay their players, so he has every right to do what he's doing.

He is confident on the field where it matters. I would not say he is shy, but not loud and obnoxious like some NFL players. Was Hakeem shy because he was quiet? No, he was humble.

 

He is nothing like any of those. None of them have the footwork or accuracy of Bridgewater. Geno Smith is lacking in every area Bridgewater excels. RGIII is more athletic and has a bit of a stronger arm but doesn't have anything close to the pocket presence of Bridgewater and Vince Young really shouldn't be in the discussion. To come up with your assessments means you haven't watched much video and you are formulating your opinion based on nothing relevant.

Assuming you at least watch a few texans games to give you a better understanding of Bridgewater just picture this, he has better footwork than Schaub and better mobility than Keenum. He has at least as quick a release as Schaub. His footwork allows him to set and reset multiple times in the pocket and still throw with accuracy unlike Schaub. He is not rattled by pressure and can scramble out of the pocket and throw on the run unlike Schaub and better than Keenum. He is taller than Keenum and has a stronger arm.

There is no absolute knowing how he will turn out in the NFL but IMO he is about as sure of being a successful QB in the NFL as you can be. He may even turn out to be a great one of all time. The reason I say that is accuracy is more important than arm strength and footwork and pocket presence are more important than athleticism. And those or his strong suits yet his arm is not weak and he is athletic albeit not Johnny football athletic. Plus leadership and character is more important than charisma and outspokenness. If you are looking for a sports announcer after he finishes the game he is probably not your guy but if you are looking for a quartrback who can be the face of your franchise for many years to come than he is your guy.

 

questions for you guys? Do you think Geno smith is better than Teddy Bridgewater?

 

No. Geno would have been the #1 pick in last year's draft if teams thought they were similar.

 

Having watched more film of Winston I would say the best comparison is Famous Jameis and Bridgewater. That's what I see. In fact Jameis Winston is a bigger stronger slightly less accurate version Bridgewater. They're only a year apart in age and bridgewater is more accurate and better in the pocket but Winston is slightly more mobile and has a stronger arm. The things that everyone loves in Winston are the same things that Bridgewater does well.

I do get that Winston is the better prospect and you draft if he's available but it's a lot closer than most realize and they are closer in style than they are different. But Bridgewater had to play with a terrible O-Line and hence dealt with more adversity and pressure and still has better completion percentage. But if you haven't seen much of Bridgewater and a lot of Winston than just get they are very similar and while I give the edge to Winston in overall talent it's closer than most realize plus the intangibles of character and heart go to Bridgewater.

 

Let's be honest, unless there's a miracle, the Texans are probably going to lose enough games next season to draft high enough to get a decent QB. They might have to trade up, but it's doable. Select Clowney or Barr this year and try to get Mariota next.

 

For the Johnny Football fans:

Teddy can do it to:

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thats what my point.. Im not saying Geno smith is great, but for his rookie
year he doesnt look that bad.. and I think Teddy Bridgewater is light years better
than Geno Smith.. (I think Teddy is well deserve of the # 1 Pick) and Geno
Smith was not.. (If actual Experts think that Teddy is the best QB in this draft,
which is loaded with QB talent.. I really think he will be something special

just saying

 

Here are 2 videos of Bridgewater and Winston. I pick these 2 because the competition is great for both and they are the biggest games these 2 have had to play in so far. Remember their ages when these 2 games took place Bridgewater was only a few months older than Winston was when he played Clemsom.

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What I see are 2 very similar QBs. Winston has more size and is a stronger passer. But bridgewater has better footwork and a better passer on the run. Bridgewater was under more pressure than Winston and he handles it better. Bridgewater is more accurate. Winston is fortunate to have a 6'5" reciever to catch passes for him.

People are so enamored with Winston. But I would say in these two games I give the edge to Bridgewater. It's easy to see why people like Winston he has the prototypical size at 6'4 230 lbs he is the perfect NFL prospect but Bridgewater is 6'3" 220" not that far off and he just turned 21 so he will get bigger.

Winston is playing on the top team and gets much more national attention and he is an amazing freshman but is he really the better player. Bridgewater is Louisville, without him they are nothing. That is not the case as much for FSU. They have a great Defense and running game.

I know it is considered ridiculous to even suggest such a thing and I would be happy with either but if you take away the hype is Winston really better.

The funny thing is they could easily be playing for the BCS Championship had Louisville beat UCF. Bridgewater did his part but the Louisville d couldn't stop them at all.

 

Great post.

Obviously, a lot of people have just based their opinions of Bridgewater on the fact that he's black. I mean comparing him to guys like VY, RGIII, and Geno Smith is exactly why I asked in your thread (OMR) if his ethnicity had anything to do with guys look past him.

A great comparison is Russell Wilson. Its been said before and discussed by not only us but football analysts that this guy has everything Russell had when coming out plus the height. That is the only reason he fell all the way to the 3rd round.

Now who would turn down having Russell Wilson in the pocket with the ability to throw the ball down-field with accuracy as well as improvise when things don't go as planned. I know if we had a guy like that this year we'd be looking more like 10-4 rather than 2-12.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...l-draft#ooid=Z5b2VxZToJeoFUpVTpG5foNsM_sV_cn1

Interesting video on Bridgewater.

I personally can't decide wether I'd take Bridgewater or Clowney. Only thing that really bugs me about Clowney is his work ethic.

We'll have to wait until the combine though, a lot of things can still happen.