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Ken Whisenhunt eyed by Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by loveofthegame44, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. mick fry

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    I dont think walmart sells those.
     
  2. thejav

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    he seems like the right choice..hopefully..
     
  3. Cannonball

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    This is the biggest POS criticism for any coach. You can't make filet mignon out of dog ****. No coach is going to coach up people who are incapable of being coached up. What did Leinart (who was actually drafted before Whisenhunt got there) ever do after he left Arizona? Derek Anderson? Kevin Kolb? The answer is not a damned thing. It's not like those guys would've excelled with a different coach. Most of the time, ****ty QB play isn't a reflection of an inability of coached to "develop" QBs as much as it as a reflect of just having ****ty QBs on the roster. Do you know who "develops" good QBs? Coaches who have good QBs to develop. If they don't have good QBs to start off with then there's only so much they can do.

    And no **** a coach is going to do better with a better QB than a ****ty one. No **** Whisenthunt had more success with Roethlisberger, Warner, and Phillip Rivers than he did Kevin Kolb and Derek Anderson.

    Whoever we hire as coach, don't expect success until we get a good QB on the roster. If we don't draft one and go into next year with Keenum as the starter, don't expect a quick turnaround. And it won't be because the coach can't coach up Keenum, it will simple be because Case isn't a legit NFL starting QB.
     
  4. Raven

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    It's obvious that McNair isn't going to do anything bold. We're going to get another stale company man who's better at making McNair feel comfortable than he is at making the Texans a disruptive force in the league.

    If Uncle Bob were a beverage, he'd be warm organic milk.
     
  5. Fulgore

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    So I guess that means no to Rex Ryan
     
  6. rhino17

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    He seems like a poor mans Kubiak, pass
     
  7. percicles

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    And Lovie Smith would be warm organic chocolate milk?
     
  8. Cannonball

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    Except he's won a conference championship and went to the Super Bowl.

    Whisenhunt did very well when he had a legit QB. Problems arose when Arizona put themselves in QB purgatory. Teams without good QBs generally don't win. Witness the Packers with Rodgers out. Indy when Peyton went down. The Texans this year when the QB situation imploded. Give any coach crap at QB and it's going to be hard to win, but Whisenhunt was successful when he had a good QB and I think that can be the case again.

    My only slight concern with him is that Bob may look at how Warner revived his career in Arizona when Whisenhunt took over as well as Rivers doing better this year and think that he can "save" Schaub, giving him an excuse to keep him around.
     
  9. Raven

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    If Lovie is a company man, if he's congenial, if he's folksy with the media, he's going to be high on McNair's list.
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    They should hire both Whisenhunt and Lovie Smith together to be co-coaches. Even with the two of them working together, they wouldn't be able to find a competent QB between them if he walked up and bit them in the @ss.

    It would be the most epic case of reciprocating mutual blind spots in the history of the NFL.
     
  11. rezdawg

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    Why would they have to look for a competent QB? Isnt that the job of the GM to find one?

    Why do we keep talking about head coaches needing to find a QB? There is a reason the GM role exists.
     
  12. rezdawg

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    Give Kubiak Drew Brees and we still go nowhere...Kubiak's coaching style doesnt lend well to winning the tough football games.
     
  13. Rip Van Rocket

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    I'm disappointed the the Texans are limiting themselves to former NFL head coaches. I'm not going to be real excited about some retread that has failed with another team. I think McNair believes we have the talent to be in "win now" mode, and wants someone with experience. I just don't see it that way.
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Good ole boys going for the safe route.

    Well at least Houston HAS a football team right?
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    Most experts feel this way about the Texans. It's a team that is basically an above average QB away from a sure-fire playoff run. I agree. It reminds me of the Chiefs last year. Loads of talent, but key components missing (offensive scheme and a QB to run it). If Schaub didn't play like hot dog crap to begin the year, this team is probably still in the hunt for a division title right now.
     
  16. mr_gootan

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    If he can bring in Grimm and they go Steeler smashmouth, I'd get on board. I think he was handicapped in ARI by management.
     
  17. Cold Hard

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    If they're going to hire Whisenhunt, then it becomes even more imperative that McNair fire Rick Smith and get a better GM.
     
  18. Ottomaton

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    Kubiak played golf with Schaub and "chose" him. Whisenhunt was the motive force behind all the QB fumbling in AZ.

    The practical reality is that, unless you are talking about a Jerry Jones style crazy owner, or perhaps a hard-ass experienced GM like Bill Polian, the coach is going to be calling the shots on core things like the QB.

    And in the two exceptions mentioned, the coach will still hsve a significant voice in the process.

    That's just the way it is in practice. There is no GM anymore who just tells the coach how it is going to be.
     
    #58 Ottomaton, Dec 9, 2013
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    This is simply not true. The GM refusing to invest in their OL and having every QB they put back there wind up hurt is what caused that carousel to spin nonstop. Very rarely did Whisenhunt shuffle that position after Warner's retirement without his hand being forced.
     
  20. Fulgore

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    If they get KW he most likely will try to trade for Big Ben.
     

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