[ClutchFans] Podcast: Taking a look at Omer Asik Trade Possibilities

Brooks has been exactly what I know he is. He got an opportunity to play some big minutes early due to combined injuries to both Lin and Harden. He got hot and we blew out a team simply because he got red hot. Thats Brooks. followed up with a couple games where his shooting goes cold and his defense confined to be Harden-level non-existent. Thats Brooks. IF given minutes, he'll win you a couple games with his shooting and he'll lose you a couple games when his shooting is off and his defense doesn't ever get better. Brooks is a minimum salary bench shooter/playmaker. He should stick in the league for a number of years because he has a primary nba skill.

But Brooks is not the difference between a championship and a contender. Daniel Gibson is sitting at home right now waiting for the phone to ring. Brooks as a third point guard is easily replaceable.

 

Actually you do not have to do that.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pklhcxl

Only thing that needs to happen is Boston has to move one more person either in the deal or waive beforehand(maybe Pressy as you eluded to).

You could even swap Brewer out for Greg Smith as well since this trade is a horrible deal to begin with for the Rockets.

You trade Lin and Asik, and you better hope you are getting a pretty damn good player in return. Rondo is good, and the Rockets would probably win the trade initially in the national media but I'm not sure he's that good in the end with what he brings to this team vs. what you are losing with Lin/Asik + decent prospect bigs like D-Mo & Smith.

 

By the way, I actually think that if we traded away Lin that Brooks would be fine as a short term fix as the back up point guard. What that should tell you is that I dont see much difference on this team between Lin and Brooks in a bsck up role. Lin is more aggressive and gets to the free throw line at a much higher rate than Brooks. For that reason I think Lin is the better player. But that factor is watered down quite a bit on this team where Harden handles the majority of the possessions and our point guards essentially serve as shooters except when Harden is on the bench.

Neither Lin nor Brooks is going to take the ball out of Harden's hands.

But Rondo would. And that might not be a bad thing.

 

I don't care what trade machine says dobro. You can't do the deals I described without waiving Brooks or Casspi and another team picking them up or including one of them in the trades.

 

So tell me what good it would be for the Rockets to waive Brooks (veteran PG, streaky 3 point shooter, can create, poor defender) and sign Boobie Gibson (Veteran PG, streaky 3 point shooter, can't create, poor defender)????

IF given minutes, he'll win you a couple games with his shooting

In a loaded Western conference the difference between the 8th seed and 3rd seed is probably those couple "minor" games that someone like Brooks wins early in the season because he's ready to go in case of injuries. Had Canaan been called up for those games, you really think he'd produced enough to be the player of the game multiple times already?

Brooks was a good pickup no matter which way you look at it, and the Rockets can do much worse with the 14th or 15th man at the end of their bench.

 

Did the math by hand just now and salaries come out to 68.282 mil after the trade which is under the lux tax. (71 mil).

THE ROCKET DONT NEED TO CUT AARON BROOKS TO MAKE THIS DEAL. Even if they did, his salary would still count against the cap just like Camby's and Reggie Williams' did.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/rockets.jsp

What... is Shamsports incorrect too???

 

Dobro,

Waiving Brooks and having him picked up by another team removes his salary from our salary cap giving us the necessary wiggle room under the luxury tax level to be able to execute the trades I proposed. Either him or Casspi or TJones or Garcia or Covington or Canaan has to go out with Asik, Lin, Brewer, DMo, and Smith. Brooks is simply the least valuable, most easily replaceable player.

He'll win you a couple games and he'll lose you a couple games. Don't cherry pick my words.

 

My suggested trade was asik, lin, dmo, smith, brewer for rondo, khump, bogans. Better refigure.

Anyways the odds of it happening are remote.

 

Lol. I had a feeling you'd say this. No way the Rockets and Celtics bank on a team picking up Brooks before he clears waivers to consummate a deal. Maybe Brooks has more value to teams than Camby or Williams did, but its still a risk that no NBA team is going to take.... especially when they dont have to do it to get a deal done.

Again why do you think the Rockets would be over the luxury tax... they aren't. Its math.

Humphries + Rondo = $23.954

Asik + Lin + D-Mo + Smith = $19.054

150% of 19.054 is $28.581 (well under the amount they are receiving from the Celtics & also keeps them under the lux tax at 68million).

The Rockets do not need to waive anyone ahead of time to do this deal. The Celtics would just need to add another player under 4.6 million to the deal (probably Pressy at the league min) or waive one ahead of time to allow for a roster spot.

 

The Bogans contract was taken out of the "refigured" trade I sent you earlier that you said was incorrect. There is no need to include his salary in the deal.

Also the deal is bad enough that I can't see it ever happening much less letting them hit the jackpot by taking on a crap salary like Bogans as well in the deal. If you want to be that generous might as well find out a way to take on Wallace's contract as well.

 

what about bledsoe? do the suns really think they can keep him?

 

asik and bev for bledsoe?

 

Why can't they keep him? He'll be a restricted free agent.

 

oh dang...i thought hoopsworlds list said unrestricted

 

I think you're right, and rondo will be a great fit to this team.

I don't get the anti rondo comments in this thread.
we don't need another shooter, we have planty of them.
we need someone who can pass the ball, and arrange the game.
rondo can bring us about 10-12 assists per game and that will be awesome for this team.

when you can get a player like rondo you go for him

just a little reminder about who were talking about, here's rondo
in an 18 points 20 assists and 17 rebounds game!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UobGcfMaIig&feature=youtube_gdata_player



we need that in Houston.

 

He not 100 percent yet and most likely Boston keep him for there future. Why would they help the rocket.

 

I'm not convinced Rondo is a great fit on the court. But from a salary cap perspective I don't know if we could do better going forward than to get Rondo, KHump, and Bogans for that mess of players I suggested. It really sets up going into 2014 free agency and the draft and gives us 6 months to try out Rondo with our team chemistry. We can then trade Rondo for ..... draft picks?? or another superstar. Rondo's contract along with Bogans' non-guaranteed deal gives us the ability to trade for basically any salary. IF perchance Lebron wants to walk here.... or Melo or somebody else that's a max player.....there's your deal Rondo and Bogans out...next superstar in. Not to mention KHump either shows up and plays hard and establishes his value as a primary backup big or we can sign-and-trade him for a good sized trade exception or we can simply let him walk and reclaim the cap space.

Options options options.....Rondo/KHump/Bogans means lots of options.

 

Asik fits with OKC and that is were he is heading, IMO. They NEED him and will pay to get him. (Adams and Perkins - ones to young and the other is lost.. their window will close without a soild center). Asik is all they are missing. I just hope DMtheGM does his magic and gets us the perfect player in return - making us just a little bit better. WOW! OKC w/Asik would be a fun match up to watch. I think the Rockets are better now and a lot in a year or two after this trade.

 

No.

Way.

In.

HELL.

 

Lol wut?


OKC fan you must be?