[ESPN] Who will go number 1: Bridgewater vs. Clowney

I think bridgewater will be picked first

 

More dominant and important is an elite QB since they can carry you to the playoffs. Watt is the best DE in football and what is he carrying us to this season?

Clowney is the safer and least likely to bust pick though.

 

This should be an easy choice.

You pick Clowney. If we take Bridgewater it's going to be Carr-Peppers all over again.

Go watch Bridgewaters last 3 games and look at his stats. He did not play well and that was against marginal competition.

 

Defense...clowney or Barr. But not bridgewater..defense defense and more defense

 

Bridgewater will bust, Sam Bradford 2.0

 

Well, I thought reading this thread helped make my mind up, but now I'm not sure anymore.

Glad I'm not the one making this decision.

 

Just imagine Clowney and Watt...

 

Memphis and Houston have upper tier defenses this year, believe it or not.

 

Hopefully there's an offer to trade down and pick up more picks. Don't think Bridgewater is a franchise guy.

 

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it would stop the Watt double teams

Clowney, Watt and Cushing back next year. Oh lawd

 

Ya... no...

 

When you're in the top 3rd of most categories (turnovers, passer efficiency, yards, etc) then I'd say that's upper tier. Memphis is especially stingy with yardage, while UH gives up yards but has a great redzone D and turnover ratio.

Houston
Passing Efficiency - 39th
Rushing Defense - 36th
Scoring Defense - 16th
Turnovers - 1st

Memphis
Total Defense - 27th
Rushing Defense - 17th
Scoring Defense - 34th
Sacks/TFL - 33rd

 

Don't see how Clowney gets the can't miss label. He's got 3 sacks this year. Those aren't the numbers of a once in a generation talent.

 

JJ had 4 in 09 and 7 in 2010

not exactly screaming once in a generation talent either and look how he turned out. Clowney will be drafted based on potential

 

Yea I would agree with that but I'd rather have the raw talent of a guy like him who has been dominant his whole college career than a guy who has one season piling up sacks **cough cough Whitney Mercilus** in a crappy conference.

Someone like Dontari Poe who has been a good choice for the Chiefs who didn't have the greatest college career but had all the physical intangibles and has been coached up to a solid DT.

 

"I want a great quarterback not a good quarterback"

John lopez.....
I thought he made a nice point

 

Watt and Poe were both drafted #11, not #1. Easier to take a bit of a gamble on a guy in the middle of the first round than at the first spot. Plus Poe is a NT, and those guys aren't judged on sack stats in the same way a DE is.

I'm not saying Clowney isn't going to be an outstanding DE. He definitely could be. But he's no more a sure thing than Bridgewater is. There are risks both ways, especially if you're trying to plug a 4-3 DE into a 3-4 scheme. For me, with the rules today, a franchise QB is so much more important than a franchise DE. If they're both gambles, give me the guy at by far the most impactful position in the game.

 

As is the case for JJ, opposing teams are resourcing more guys and schemes to slow Clowney down. 46 tackles for loss and 24 sacks over 35 games is pretty damn good.

 

That was the lame Mario Williams excuse when he was playing poorly.

JJ draws extra attention and has still has 9.5 sacks this year. And Clowney's stats are down across the board this year. If SEC o-lines can shut him down, what happens in the NFL? Do we just ignore his production this year and pretend like it's still 2012?