Police Seize White Teen From Black Legal Guardians

lol insults

I knew they'd be quick from you.

no proof, as usual. It's your crutch when you have nothing else to defend yourself with.

 

lol bigotexxx pity party, how unusual and original. When I have nothing to defend myself I usually call pity party, white guilt, or insults. It works every time.

 

With bigtexxx here now, I might have to switch sides.

 

What side am I am on? I'd like to know. I've said we need more facts

 

I'm not sure what the problem with guys napping at a gas station is. I've been on long road trips, some of which I was alone in the car. I made sure I pulled over somewhere to get a quick cat nap, cold water splash, and something to eat or drink.

I don't have a problem with anything I've heard about what the 2 guys did.

 

This is what I am thinking. They said they were lost and trying to program the GPS. I've had to pull over on my way back from Memphis to get a few z's and it's only an hour a way. I'll be honest though I don't know much about the story but it seems the police may have overreacted, I guess we'll see as more information becomes available.

 

Whatever do you mean? I didn't say you were on a side, merely that you were here.

I don't think they did anything wrong, and I don't think anyone is saying they did. Police don't think so either, seeing as no one was arrested. But, I am saying (and some have said similar things) that they were peculiar enough to warrant investigation. It's not racial profiling every time the cops look into something that turns out to be perfectly okay.

 

which one of your thread leading 9 posts says that we need more facts?

you came in with a michael jackson joke and then went on to suggest the two grown legal guardians were "manpanions"

thank you for acknowledging my need for facts though.

 

Doc Tallanvor certainly said they did something wrong.

I don't know if it's racial profiling or not. If in fact, they asked the mother if she knew her daughter was with two black guys, that may indicate racial profiling and that they believe it was wrong for a white girl to be with two black guys.

 

Yeah, it sounds like he thought it was either unlikely or even objectionable that she'd be traveling with blacks. There's probably some racial stereotyping involved. But, once becoming aware that there was an underaged girl sleeping in a car with out-of-state plates at a gas station in the middle of the night with 2 grown men who are unlikely to be of any relation to her -- even without considering the races of those involved, isn't that suspicious enough? The policeman might have racial and even racist attitudes, but that doesn't really make it racial profiling whenever he investigates black people.

 

Sure - until everyone involved (girl included) says everything is good, they show cops documentation, and they can call the parents and confirm. All of that should be doable in 10-15 minutes while at the gas station. If you want to hold them for 8 hours or whatever it was, there needs to be some reasonable suspicion that all of the above is being faked/fraudulent.

 

I don't think that's reasonable. They thought the girl was a runaway and that she was lying about her dance trip. The number she provided for her parents could have been a friend who had agreed to cover for her. It would have been negligent to accept her story without proving the identity of the people on the phone claiming to be parents. She hasn't reached an age of majority where they can let citizens do what they will -- they have a responsibility to make sure she's not in danger.

If she was a runaway who has fallen in love with a pimp and not yet realized the danger she was in, and said pimp provided her with some false documents and pimp-friends to play the part of parents, do you want cops to spend 15 minutes on the case and then wave them through? I don't. I think apart from reproaching the parents for their choices and putting the men into a police cruiser (though that might not even be anything), I think they were a model of circumspection and restraint -- checked out the documernts they were presented, made no arrests, and cleared everything up in 8 hours.

 

These are all hypotheticals not based on the facts. Runaways don't tend to pack a birth certificate, have documents authorizing guardianship, and have the police in their home city vouch for them.

 

Sure, it's all hypothetical until you confirm the authenticity of the guardianship documents with the parents and confirm the identity of those parents. Which they did. They didn't run with stereotypes of what runaways might be likely to do. What's the problem again?

 

The problem is the bending over backwards to legitimize the targeting of minorities who have themselves bent over backwards to ensure they could prove themselves to be innocent if questioned by race profiling police when a presumption of innocence is their right.

 

They were presumed innocent and never arrested. The safety of minors is a different issue and its reasonable and justifiable that they required a higher level of proof that her safety was assured. No bending is required.

 

At a rest stop maybe but sleeping in a car at a gas station in a city might seem pretty suspicious. At the minimum the police would probably want to check to see if the person was intoxicated.

I don't see a problem with the police investigating this or even detaining all involved to check to make sure nothing illegal was going on. I think they handled it terribly by holding them for too long and also criticizing the mom's parenting.

 

Also people have to realize this is not their own kids and their actions cannot be judged in that way. Getting so tired you sleep at a gas station which is presumably close to the hotel you booked is poor planning. This is basically a school trip and you have to step up your responsibility when you have other people's kids.

 

It's suspicious behavior. If you were to picture a sex slave girl and her pimps, this would be it. I'd raise an eyebrow, too, but once things are vindicated you let go.

The thing is once info was presented, you have to back off. You cannot insist you are right.

 

Maybe this is an example of why you shouldn't use stereotypes to try and picture sex slave girls and their pimps.