Lol. That may work on grade school girls like you, not on me man. Now go telk your daddy real men are having a conversation over here.
If you ask every GM in the NBA who would they rather build a team around Harden or George, I guarantee they all would pick George because he plays both sides of the ball.
every other person defending Harden is bringing up the fact that Ronnie Brewer didnt do any better guarding Hayward either. It involved Harden, because people are deflecting blame from the superstar to a guy that rarely even sees the floor! I'm trying to put into perspective helping these people take off their beer goggles by using the Heat as an example. This is the equivalent of LeBron being burned by Hayward, and another Heat fan trying to defend him by saying "hey he scored on Shane Battier too!"
Rational people don't expect Harden to be a defensive stopper on hot jump shooters while being a defensive stopper is the justification for Ronnie Brewer's existence as a nba player. Irrational people keep pushing their agenda even if clear evidence is brought up to contradict it.
You have been called out not by just me for having an agenda. It dosent take a lot to see you are an ex YOF/LOF with an agenda.
So Calvin Murphy, Matt Bullard and Bill Worrell were all wrong with their assessment on Harden's defense and Hayward being his man. Gotcha
hahhahaha Ronnie Brewer is supposed to be the defensive stopper??!? What defensive stopper in the league gets 5 minutes of playing time a game? Brewer is a reserve and that's all there is to it. Blake, Redick, Gerald Henderson, I bring it up because its' a freaking trend. Every other 2 guard has exceptional games vs the Rockets.
Ronnie Brewer is no defensive stopper, not since years ago. Defensive stoppers get consistent playing time, they don't get called on 5 minutes a game once a week cause someone on the other team is hot. Bruce Bowen fit the mold, tony allen, thabo sefolosha even. I dont expect Harden to be a defensive stopper, but Hayward dropped lay up after lay up after layup on him in the 1st quarter! If it's an isolated incident, then fine, but we've all seen freaking steve blake and jj redick do-si-do right around him for layups too! Why does it seem like every 2 guard just happens to be hot vs the Rockets? Hayward averaged under 17ppg coming into the Rocket game. Unless he plays defensive stoppers all the time, on average the league defends him to about 17, and of course he goes for 12 more than that. Take off those easy layup and it's 23 points and now it doesnt look so bad. I've never seen a so many excuses offered up for a so called superstar since Carmelo and it wasnt even this bad, at least in the end he took heat.
So what you're saying is if he had only scored 5 points for the 25-30 minutes Harden was on him, then it wouldn't look as bad? You know what also would make it look not so bad? If he scored at the same rate on others as he did on Harden, then he would have only scored about 16 points
Whats crazy is other teams knows Harden defense isn't that good. Commentators call Harden out for his defense and I am pretty sure Coach McHale and Harden's teammates have called him out for his lackluster effort on defense. I know if I was on this team I would most definitely would check Harden for his defensive play.
I think both players are very talented. Both have their strengths and weaknesses and Harden is clearly not as bad as portrayed here. The reason why most people here think George is better is because you guys watch Harden play every game so you can spot his weaknesses easily. Like I said, George isn't perfect either, so please stop glorifying George just because he looks good in highlights.
heh???! YOu make no sense. You're saying LeBron played poor defense early on so we shouldnt worry about Harden. I'm saying the dude was a beast by the time he was 24, it's not like it took him 10 years to get his D on point. YOu're making a foolish comparison saying because LeBron didnt have lockdown D as a freaking 18-19 year old coming out of high school, we shouldnt be worried about Harden's lackadaisical D at age 24, in his 5th year in the league after already having 2 seasons of college ball in his career. At Harden's age and stage of his career, LeBron's D was already on point, and it's just comical to even bring up LeBron's development in the same sentence where you're trying to project Harden's development on defense no less!
I posted a link to the video of all 12 of Hayward's baskets in my first post in the thread. Did you look at them? If you look at them you can see that Harden wasn't guarding Hayward on most of his makes. So you are saying that the NBA video that I posted is incorrect? Unless you're going to argue that the NBA doctored the video then I don't see how you can continue to try and claim that Hayward scored all of his points on Harden. I'm guessing that you're second hand recollection of the announcer's statements is probably about as accurate as your assessment of the video that I posted. It's on video, everyone can see it for themselves. You can try and convince people all day but everyone can see it for themselves. If Hayward truely had scored all of his points on Harden, what do you think would have been the response to the video that I posted? People would have been falling all over themselves to point out all of the times that Hayward scored on Harden. Now, what actually happened? After seeing the video, you're the only person who has continued to claim that Hayward scored all of his points on Harden. So what does that tell you?
Lebron is the exception to the rule, as per usual. Most high usage all-NBA wings don't play good D most of the time. They might do it for a while like Kobe or T-Mac and after that only sparingly and in the playoffs. Kobe coasted for years on his reputation. Paul George seems to be the other exception but this is the first season he really has a high usage-%. Andre Iguodala's USG hasn't been over 20 for like 5 years. Harden has to improve some but this is much more a team defense issue if we are going to be realistic about this.
Can you post the sound bit to that game in which both Bill and Bull were calling out Harden for his defense . Also post Calvin Murphy's analysis of the game sir.
Ok, then who is our defensive stopper? Which Rocket do you consider a better wing defender then Brewer? Who's the best defender that we could have thrown at Hayward? Parsons? He hasn't been too good on defense this year. Garcia? He started the game on Hayward and they had to switch him off. Why do you think Brewer is on the Rockets or in the league for that matter? Do you think he's around for his sweet jump shot or his handles? Nope, he's in the league because of his defense. If you're the coach and we have to try and shutdown a wing player with a hot hand, who do you go to on defense if not Brewer? He's certainly not Tony Allen but he's easily the best that we have.
