[Chron.com] Rockets Forward Parsons Worth on Upswing

Superstars are top 5 players in the league! You coulda just said all-star dude. If you think parsons has potential to be a top 5 player in the league then you are delusional.

 

Sorry. I guess I forgot that you decide the criteria for superstar.

James Harden may not even be top 5 (heck, some people don't even consider him top 2 or 3 in the PG position), and yet nearly everyone has no problem calling him a superstar (which, I do agree that he is).

Why would I say Parsons has the "potential" to be an All-Star? He clearly already has the talent to be one.

 

rondo

 

i know, right? LOL superstar? how long have you been watching basketball?

 

Most people don't consider Harden top 30 in the PG position

Because he's not a PG

 

Prediction, Parsons makes one all star team in his career.

Prediction, you're drunk?

 

his shot is too flat to warrant a lucrative contract.

 

i wonder if he will give the hometown team a discount.

 

you are kidding yourself if you think Rondo will resign or extend his contract at $12 million a year. That salary was based on his rookie contract 4 years ago, he's a much better player now and will command a much higher salary.

Plus do you really think Morey would trade for a pg who can't hit 3 point shots?

 

just an example. i'm sure if i investigate, there will be players you can sign for around that much, who are definately more valuable than him. but in rondo's case, i'd still save the 10 millions towards him, and pay him what? 5 or 6 million more? he's worth it.

our perimeter defense is not good enough to win an NBA championship. Even though we got lucky and squeaked out a win in SA, i don't see us beating them in a seven game series, much less the miami heat.

when the spurs went on that 12-0 run with parker, he was getting in the lane at will with one simple pick. beverley could only do so much, its a team defense. parsons exerts way too much energy running the break and on offense now, that he doesn't have the energy to play lockdown defense.

Not only is our perimeter defense crappy, our offense in the half-court needs another creator/iniator against good defensive teams like SA. Dwight can't do squat against Duncan in the post. Harden has got to go against a double team. We need a third creator/iniator. And please, no, parsons is not it. He's a catch and shoot, or pump fake drive kind of guy, with a little bit of play making skills. But against a good D he has trouble. And yes i did see the time he pulled up for the midrange J and hit it. But every time he puts the ball on the floor and tries to squeeze it in there, i think a turnover is about to happen.

 

I think things will be clearer after the trade deadline. I rather expect the Rockets will trade Asik in a deal that will make salary cap space in 2015 unlikely and therefore more likely that Parsons will get his RFA deal.

 

Ok, so you are changing it from getting someone at 12 million to getting someone at 16 million. 6 million is a huge difference by the way. Is Rondo worth getting as an upgrade over Parson for the extra 6 million, considering the downgrade you will take at Small Forward to Omri Casspi? I don't think so. Especially since Rondo can't hit a 3 and becomes even more redundant to Harden than Lin! What are you going to do - bring Rondo off the bench? Have you seriously through this through? And you mention "other players" you'd have to "investigate"????? C;mon man, you can do better.


And who in this league can stop Parker??? I mean, the guy gets into the lane against nearly everyone. That's not an individual defense thing, it's a team defensive failure. Bev isn't suppose to stop that all by himself. Miami really struggled to stop him. Everyone struggles to stop him!

The problem with this team - and I will say it for the 76th time - is not the personnel right now. It's EXPERIENCE and an understanding on how to properly play TEAM defense. Not individual defense. All of the players individual defense is fine. We break down as a team. Because we are switching properly. That's it!

 

yes, that's what i said, its a team defensive thing. thanks for reiterating what i've said. where is parsons help D or his individual supposive lockdown D this season. I've seen him get burned many times, and doesn't even fight around a pick just cuz he's tall with long arms. he's neither a good help defender or individual defender, though decent. He's trying to hard to fill up the stats, probably at the advice of his agent Dan fegan. Because the average fan only sees those 3's he's making -- wide open, by the way, on a high scoring team.

averaging 17 points a game on a high scoring team that averages 109 points a game is not that big of a deal, when its mostly on wide open 3s or hustle points. He is great at hustle points. if its not him, someone else will hit those 3s.

But look what we get out of jones, brooks, cassipi, and garcia for the league minimum?

 

You keep talking about Parsons getting burned and then say it's not about individual defense but team defense. Team defense...I mean, the whole idea of team defense is that it's suppose to deal with the idea that people aren't great individual defenders. The idea is that you allow your defenders to get burned on the perimeter - so they can play the player much tighter and take away the jump shot. So when Parson gets burned it's not his fault if the guy gets to the rim, rather it's the slow rotation of other players who are suppose to help.

And I am sorry - saying all Parson does is hit 3's and gets hustle points is ridiculous. The guy has been backing players down, coming off of screen, cutting and moving without the ball. He's freaking running the offense he's told to do. He's not trying to do anything fancy because IT'S NOT WHAT IS ASKED OF HIM.

You'd rather get a guy like Melo who sits there and creates his own shots at a 45% clip? Granted in the playoffs things are different - but let's be clear - Parsons is still on his FIRST CONTRACT and he is getting paid hardly anything.

You act like this is his ceiling, and that he's a minimal player. Dude - Parson is one of the fastest rising stars in this league. If you can't see that, I don't know what else to tell you.

 

cutting == hustle points in my book.

Yes, I'm sure every GM in this world would take Melo over parsons.

He's a role player, who can't create his own shot well in the half court. He needs to receive the ball in space. Does this make sense? Against good teams which have good transition defenses, it slows down to a half court game. So all this regular season fast breaking stuff we do will be limited, tho not shut down of course. Parsons in the half court is not that big of a deal, you can replace him for cheaper. But he might get a big contract just based on his looks, cuz its a business after all.

 

Since the 80s...and long enough to know that potential for 24/6/7 a game with very good defense is worthy of being a superstar.

You?

LOL I just meant to say G.

Either way, my point is the same. You'll find quite a few who don't even find him to be a top 3 guard, so I think it's a bit extreme to say superstars are only top 5 in the NBA.

I would say anyone that is at least top 15 are superstars.

Why do you say that? Even his current talent is enough to warrant being an All Star, so for him to only make one his entire career would suggest that he regresses after this season- which I think is unlikely. He's likely to get better as time goes on.

 

Chandler parson doesn't play very good defense anymore now that he's trying to reach 24/6/7 you're talking about. And how on earth is he going to reach these numbers unless he develops a post game and takes touches away from dwight?

 

His defense has vastly improved the last few weeks as he is no longer over persuing and there is better discussion on switches.

Offensively:
He is shooting 53% from the floor, including 39% from three.
He is getting 17 points a game on only 12 shots a game.
He has a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio
He is getting over a steal a game and over half a block a game.
He is 16th in the NBA in PPS at 1.41
He is 5th in the NBA in ADJ FG%
He is 21st in TS%

I don't know what Parsons is worth as far as a contract goes, but I do know that he is the 3rd or at worst, 4th best player on the Rockets and gives the team exactly what they need at the 3/4.

 

What makes you say that? He moves his feet really well, is great at squaring up, and does well at drawing charges. There's not much more you can ask for in today's game, where you aren't really allowed to play defense without having a foul called against you.

Parsons could be scoring a lot more points this season than he has. He passes up on open shots to give other players an open shot more than any other player on our team.

Just a little bit less selflessness is all that stands between Parsons and 20 PPG right now.

The more he improves, the more touches he will get as well anyways.

 

Parsons is shooting at an ELITE level this year with a TS% of 59, a 3% of 39 and an overall FG% of 52 ................ He isn't missing THAT many layups apparently.