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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. thebeardedwon

    thebeardedwon Member

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    ^this. I feel bad for the fans that are so negative all the time. Enjoy the ride. We have one of the most exciting and promising teams in the NBA. If you're so upset after a win, I'd hate to be you after a loss
     
  2. THE DR34M

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    Kneejerks

    Just because we won by 6pts on Spurs home court you think McHale's a good coach? LOL
     
  3. jtr

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    Un****ing believable. The Rockets go to the home court of one of the toughest outs in the NBA, against a team that should have had the ring last season, and win their fifth straight. And the trolls are still b*tching and moaning about McHale. Well baby girl trolls, time to grow up and admit that you all have squid for brains. To bad no one is going to ban you for ignorance and stupidity.

    This post did not even begin to heap enough disdain and scorn on your sorry ***es.
     
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  4. meh

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    And other fans understand that there's no such thing as a perfectly played game. As well as the fact that the NBA is a series of runs.

    If your criteria for the Rockets is that they can't possibly let one of the top teams in the NBA at home to make a run at us, that we cannot look bad for any stretches of minutes, then you might as well stop following the NBA. Because I can tell you right now that no NBA team should expect to pound the Spurs by 20 in SA.
     
  5. jtr

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    It is remarkable meh how many so called fans who cannot distinguish between a pick and roll and a cut seem to be experts at how to coach a NBA team. There has to be humor there somewhere, but I just cannot find it.
     
  6. Roxnostalgia

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    Well in Mchale's defense, Lin wasn't playing.


    Lost major style points for the WIN in SAN ANTONIO there.
     
  7. Chris Jent MVP

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    This Rockets win just proves how much better the Spurs are. because McFail. :rolleyes:
     
  8. Downtown Sniper

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    Oops.
    Better back it up there and try to find where I said this Rockets team should've beaten San Antone by 20.

    Oops.
    Better back it up there and try to find where I said ANYTHING about McHale needing to be fired in regards to this game.

    Helpful word of advice. You should just reread my post.
    And see I provided some insight as to what I'd like to see addressed in the future.

    Heaven forbid someone actually has some constructive criticism.
    It's not all hell is raining upon the earth when someone posts in this thread champ.

    I get it. I really do. You think because you've got some green squares next to your name it makes you 1) smarter then those with less green squares and 2) makes you more a fan then those with less.

    But just try next time to see a post for what it is - and not some perceived slight you have imagined in your head.

    EDIT: sorry. Just have to bring light to the bold.
    You really do like to hit for the fences don't you in your assumptions.
    You've somehow gone from my being concerned about problems which stretch back to last season - to making something up completely.
     
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    You said we need to stop taking 3s because sometimes you make them and sometimes you miss. Yet if it weren't for Belinelli chucking up 3s after 3s. the Spurs would've never came back. And this is something the Spurs do all the time.

    It's also what Marco Benilelli has done for his entire career, yet the Spurs targeted him in the offseason.

    So do you believe that the Spurs play the wrong way and needs to improve on their coaching?
     
  10. Chris Jent MVP

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    Rockets scored too many points.

    Spurs didn't use offense to make a comeback, they played mega defense that subtracted 20 points from Rockets score.

    This Rockets victory proved that MCfail blows and Pop 0wnz.
     
  11. Downtown Sniper

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    I said it before that there's just a tiny difference between the two.

    I guess I should have elaborated.

    There is a difference between the Spurs getting into the middle of the key at will and dishing the ball out to a wide open 3 point shooter.
    (you may have also noticed the Spurs went to the high P'n'R for Tony Parker a lot in the 4th... But I digress that's not what we're debating here)

    Whereas on the Rockets side of house you have Casspi crossing the ball over in front of his defender and chucking up an ill advised 3 pointer.

    Do you see the difference there?

    I'd like to hear your thoughts on the points I made in my original post.
    I'm being sincere here, I would really like to know what you make of them.

    What do you make of the Spurs - at the end of close games they resort to a Parker P'n'R. Do you think there's a reason for that?
    What do you make of the Clippers - at the end of close games they resort to a Paul P'n'R. Do you think there's a reason for that?
     
  12. Chris Jent MVP

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    Spurs played PnR, lost the game.
    Rockets played inside-out, won the game.

    That's what I make of it.
     
  13. Chris Jent MVP

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    These complaints about the Rockets playstyle are extra hilarious, considering your name is Downtown Sniper. Irony much?
     
  14. Downtown Sniper

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    Ok. You can bask in the glory of a regular season game.

    Meanwhile the Spurs go to war with the P'n'R and have been the most dominant team in the West for the past decade.

    That's what I make of it.

    EDIT: I feel like I have to make something clear to you because you obviously haven't realised it.
    THIS WAS A GREAT WIN BY THE ROCKETS. A great win does not excuse problems which still exist within this team.
    Jesus why is that so hard to understand.
     
  15. Chris Jent MVP

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    The Spurs have an established system and coach/player core for nearly 20 years. The Rockets are still learning and improving.

    Doesn't changed the fact that the Rockets forced their own style of play onto the Spurs tonight and won the game. In basketball slang, that's known as "imposing your will" against the opponent.

    It was a great game no matter how you slice it. Your criticisms are way overboard.
     
  16. Downtown Sniper

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    Sigh.

    Half of my criticisms go all the way back to last season. So they aren't based on one game.

    I seriously don't know how to continue trying to emphasis this point to you because you simply aren't getting it.
     
  17. Chris Jent MVP

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    I read your post and followed the conversation. All your points were addressed by other posters yet you still keep arguing like it never happened.

    Basically everything you've been saying comes down to - Rockets need better PnR offense and better PnR defense. It's an incredibly generic argument.

    Also its especially ridiculous that you keep beating this dead horse when the Rockets won the game. And it wasn't because of luck. Rockets played a superior game tonight, in all aspects.
     
  18. Chris Jent MVP

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    Scratch that - your argument is even worse than I stated. Your basic argument is PnR 3-pointers are better than Motion Offense 3-pointers. Because McFail.
     
  19. TheJet

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    You can't compare Pop and the Spurs to McHale and the Rockets. You just can't. The Spurs and Pop have been together running the same style of team forever. Pop didn't magically appear as a good coach. Wasn't he in the SA system for like eight years? They've built a monster down there in SA starting with the choke job for Duncan. And some folks are all over McHale because he's not at Pop's level? Crazy.

    Here's an idea. It's called setting expectations. I had McHale as "average" in my mind to start the season. No way I'd hold him to Pop level expectations. So I'm not surprised or mad when he makes mistakes Pop wouldn't make. Is it frustrating? Sure. Would I like a better, championship proven coach? Of course. But it is what it is. If you're expecting the world from your coach/player/team and it's just not realistic you're setting yourself up for heartbreak and anger.

    I think McHale is improving. His rotations and play time distribution still seem wacky to me, but again, I don't expect him to magically make the correct decision every time. So far things seem to be working out.
     
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  20. torocan

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    I think comparing McHale to a coach like Pops is both fair and unfair.

    It's unfair in that clearly he hasn't had the time to develop like Pops (or other Head Coaches). However it is fair in that our window of expectations for the team means that we expect the Rockets to challenge the Spurs in a meaningful fashion within the next 1-3 years.

    Do we really expect McHale to develop into a Play Off caliber coach in that time? If you do then you're fine just sitting and letting him grow. If you're doubtful (toss me in that group), then I think it's better to work on finding a superior coach and let McHale get his on the job training with a less competitive team.

    Brett Brown spent 15 years at Pops' side through 4 championships and even he is coaching the 76ers -- a lottery team.

    It says something about where I think McHale is in his development curve that I'd feel more comfortable with a rookie Head Coach like Brett Brown over McHale.

    That's not necessarily a bash on McHale, I just think at this point in his development that he's not ready for a team like the Rockets, now will he be ready by the time the Team is ready.
     

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