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Rival GM: Morey is delusional

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by YourSecretLover, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Like I said, it really depends on how badly the team needs someone like Asik and if it is enough make opposing GM's simply pause instead of flinch. 5-8M more is still a lot of money no matter how you look at it and rich people stay usually stay rich by haphazardly wasting money unless they want to go broke fast or have a business that sustains their expenses. If it was ONLY an issue of the cap hit being 8.3M, there wouldn't even be a discussion. It is BECAUSE there is that 15M last payment that Asik is even still on our team.
     
  2. YallMean

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    Well, good, we will keep him for now.
     
  3. torocan

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    The Knicks got Felton because Morey out-smarted him.

    The Knicks could have given Lin an offer prior to free agency (4 year, $24M), but instead told him to test the market.

    They then told everyone in the world they would match a Billion dollars when there was word leaking that the Rockets were offering him 4 years at 5/5/10/10 ($7.5M/year).

    Morey then poison pilled the contract and made the Knicks balk.

    The Knicks then got Felton, Sheed, Kidd, and Camby.. ultimately spending more than Lin's entire contract plus change, while simultaneously trading away multiple draft picks. They then traded for Bargnani for an additional $11M/year, and gave away 2 more 2nd round picks and a 1st round pick.

    Amazingly Knicks would have ultimately spent less money keeping Lin, especially since his first 2 years were at $5M/year and they could have traded him at any time for picks, other players, or simply did a stretch waive on his last year to reduce the Cap hit of the final year to $5M/year.

    Lin was a perfect example of idiotic FO roster management... typical of James Dolan who many believe refused to sign Lin out of spite over the Morey poison pill. Remember, Dolan is the guy that decided that the solution to a bad Knicks team performance this year was the suspend the Cheerleaders... :eek:
     
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    Chandler + Lopez + Davis are the only ones better than him. Pekovic and Vucevic are on the same level and Id say everybody else is way lower than him. You clearly do not watch basketball
     
  5. Fullcourt

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    Asik gets paid $5 mil this year. $10 mil average over two years is still a good deal for a player of his impact. I'd be willing to guess the $15 mil sticking point is just conjecture on Berger's part.
     
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    Pekovic and Vucevic are both one dimensional players, same as Asik.
     
  7. quatin

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    This is a different trade situation than what you responded. I wrote for when Omer is traded at the end of the season. I can see how we can have a misunderstanding there, but everything else you asked is in my post that you quoted.

    The trade scenario is for New Orleans, who is $8 million over cap and I assume is in the 1.75x penalty bracket.

    The trade is for Ryan Anderson, who has roughly the same $8 million cap as Omer.


    Let's do your trade scenario now to New Orleans. The cap hit is the same, so we can keep the same penalty bracket.

    Omer: $2.5 million + $2.5million x 1.75 + $15 million + $8 million x 1.75 = $37.75 million
    Anderson: $4 million + $4 million x 1.75 + $8 million + $8 million x 1.75= $33 million

    It still costs New Orleans ~$4.75 million more to get Asik.
     
  8. Rox23

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    I watch plenty of NBA ball, but I'm an AOH, okay, got it?;)

    Just kidding. How can anyone not love Big O, except...when he fumbles passes three times in a row which leads to turnovers and a loss to Philly, botches a layup (or 5), attempts a jump shot, and misses consecutive free throws.
     
  9. ThatBoyNick

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    I like morey being delusional, it has worked well for us.
     
  10. rocketsfan4

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    Bingo.

    Double Bingo.

    Triple Bingo.
     
  11. TheRealAllpro

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    I think the problem is everyone overvalues their own players. Compound that with the fact that Morey values things other gms might not even notice and I can see situation where both the rival gm and Morey could be right.
     
  12. Remii

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    If Morey values Asik like some fans around here value Rockets players, I bet he is being delusional with his asking price. With that said, Morey is probably asking for too much on purpose _ so he can go back to Asik's agent and tell him he can't find a trade partner and keep him for the rest of the season.
     
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    Not to mention that DJ Jordan is substantially better than Asik this year and for his career. Asik has a PER of 11.4 and even his last year's career best PER of 14.9 is below the league average. There is some serious overrating of this guy on this board (and apparently by your GM). The idea that he could fetch a lotto pick is sheer insanity.
     
  14. DarkRock

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    Isn't that funny? Rival GMs want Asik from Morey for cheap. That's delusional!
     
  15. chenjy9

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    If delusions get us talent like Harden and Howard, by all means, stay deluded!
     
  16. justtxyank

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    Less than half of the NBA owners have more than 1 billion.
     
  17. Raven

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    Like I've been saying, no fire sale. Let's hope fans start cheering for Asik to stay. His value will only be higher if he agrees to stick around.
     
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    I'd be bummed too if I had Monta Ellis and Dalembert instead of Harden and Dwight.

    I'd rather slightly have Lin/Asik than Ellis and Dalembert
     
  19. nono

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    Due to his salary the longer he stays the less valuable he is.
     
  20. Blake

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    Delusional like a fox...
     

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