Actually, it's very contextual. For a team already in the Luxury tax, that multiplier can actually be larger than the difference between Asik's salary and cap hit, and could potentially actually lower their cap hit (ending up costing even less on the final total). Similarly, it's not $8.3M + $14.8M, it's the total amount STILL owed divided by the remaining length of the contract. So think more like $10M per season out of pocket (not counting potential tax hits) versus $8.3M cap hit when amortized over the contract life. As for the valuation of Omer, I don't think $10M is out of whack for a top line defensive Center at all. What it really comes down to is a few simple questions... 1) How badly do they need a Center? Are they making a serious play off push? Or just shoring up a position in a treadmill season? Is it to replace an injured Center? Or an upgrade to an existing Center? 2) What other Centers are available at trade deadline? Value vs money. 3) Will this tie up needed cap space? A team already over the cap can actually benefit and reduce their cap hit (getting them under the apron, or a reduced repeater penalty which can go as high as 2.5x). A team under the cap may balk if they're hoping to sign a particular FA in the off season and the numbers are tight. 4) Is the owner financially cheap? Some owners refuse to go into the luxury tax at any time. 5) Is this part of a larger trade to shore up other positions or to extricate themselves from other redundant players? 6) Would taking on Omer put them in a bad position in terms of the draft? If you're outside of the top 10 your pick has a lot less value than if you're likely to get a top 10 draft pick. So, it's not as simple as his salary goes up. The value/penalty of the last year of the contract will be different for every team.
No GM (even rich ones) wants to spend $15 million regardless of how much it costs against the cap. That is why Jeremy Lin has basically 0 trade value right now. Now while the 8.3M cap hit helps a lot in terms of signing other options, paying 7.7M more out of pocket is still a huge chunk of money. Now if the pro's outweigh the cons, which I feel like with Asik they do, GM's and owners can swallow that almost 8M more heft, but it is still a rather big factor. Salary cap limits what GM's can do to a certain point, but you would be an idiot to simply agree on to take on that much more expense unless you are primed to make a championship run or you are rebuilding and want first chance to try and convince Asik he should be part of your franchise's future.
Logically you r right, but his double double games are based on our high pacing system and every other GM know that(I guess). Of course Asik is top 5 center with decent sizing advantage. The reason Ask stop talking he wants out is to give Morey more bargaining chip on multiple table. We will see how good Morey can do this time.
I think it is the other GMs who are delusional for thinking that they can get Asik for scrubs just because Asik is unhappy. Their logic had been that Morey should trade Asik to fill holes on their roster, all the while ignoring the fact that the biggest hole on their roster the Rockets would have to fill when trading Asik is: Backup center/defensive anchor.
Tyson Chandler is old, B Lopez can't rebound for crap and his D is questionable, Robin Lopez is a worse overall defender than Asik, and injured and McGee is an idiot. I would take Asik over over anyone else you named. Also, I think you meant ANTHONY Davis who is a PF, not a center.
Asik isn't worth $15 million to begin with. That alone means he's over paid on that last year without taking into account that he also tacks on a tax penalty. For example, let's see what New Orleans has to pay when Morey tires to trade for Ryan Anderson. I'm assume New Orleans is in the 1.75x tax penalty bracket. Asik: $15 million + $8.3 million x 1.75 tax penalty = $29.5 million Anderson: $8 million + $8 million x 1.75 tax penalty= $22 million This is why New Orleans wants a pick or something else on top of the Asik trade. They have to pay $7.5 million MORE to have Asik instead of Anderson. Instead, they can go get a $3 million center (IE Dalembert) and keep Anderson for the SAME PRICE.
For a guy who can't catch a pass, finish a layup, hit a jumpshot, hit a 3-point shot, and only makes half his free throws--that's saying a lot about the state of centers in today's NBA. Pekovic, Vucavic, Valanciunus, Brook Lopez and Tim Duncan ARE BETTER than Asik.
Hard to find a center who is an elite defender with true size and young and in his prime. Moreys asking price for Asik may be delisionally high right now in November, but as we get closer to February 20th trade deadline it may look very reasonable to a team in need.
I agree except for Chandler and Brook Lopez (and excluding Davis since he is a PF) other than that I agree,but If I am building a team for the future I would take Valanciuanas and Vucevic since they are pretty young and have ton of upside. Btw lol at Robin Lopez being better than Omer,He is trash.
Most owners have billions. 15m is not a lot of money for a player like Asik. Another center with his rebounding and defensive ability would cost about 10Mil. ,only 5mil more. The average point guard makes 5mil.
He is good on D, and that's about it. He is severely limited offensively and you are basically playing 4 vs 5 on every possession.
Huh? Where did you just make that up? Asik's salary THIS year - $5M Asik's salary NEXT year - $14.8M Combined salary from trade deadline - $2.5M + $14.8M = $17.3M Cap hits $8.3M + $8.3M The actual tax penalty will depend on WHO is signing him. Let's say that your salary is at $50M. Then you tax hit is $0. That's $50M + $8.3M = $58.3M, ie, under the cap. That would mean you're paying Asik about $9M/year. Now, if you're already over the cap, then it would DEPEND on what contracts you send back out. If your cap actually goes UP, then you pay more tax. If your cap goes down in the trade, then depending on how much it goes down you can actually end up paying less than if he was earning $10M/year on the cap. The Cap hits and Salary hits are NOT the same, either in terms of actual money out, or calculating the Luxury Tax, or the Apron threshold.
The Knicks got Felton because they did not want to pay Lin's price. Sometimes cheap is too expensive.
