[ClutchFans] Podcast: Taking a look at Omer Asik Trade Possibilities

As far as Asik doesnt get traded in the division or with the lakers. also if he has to go, send him to the eastern conference.

 

Lopez is crap compared to Omer. The would be a stupid ass trade.

 

Separate trades, you would have to come up with a few millions dollars worth of filler. Cap hit on Asik, 8 million, Cap hit with Deng, 14.3 million. So you have to come up with 3-4 million in contracts. So lets say you fill in with Donuts and Garcia which is about 3 million. First trade is 3 players for one.

Next is Lin. Cap hit is also 8 million, Cap hit for Boozer this year is 15.3 million. Now you're looking at 4-5 million in filler. So this time we have to send Aaron Brooks, Ronnie Brewer, Terrence Jones, and one of either Casspi, Parsons or Smith or maybe Beverly. Second trade is 4 players to 1.

You have now sent half your team for two players and 5 roster spots to fill and given Chicago about 7 million in cap hits that they have to pay but must cut because now they have 5 players too many.

So while there is an ability to make such a trade, Gar Forman would have to have been mutilated with a dummy stick to ever do it. Hence I return to my statement that it would be impossible to make such a trade.

I also remind you that I never said that we couldn't get both of them. I just believe the only way that can happen is if they amnesty Boozer.

 

I concur

 

When you put it that way I greatly prefer them to amnesty boozer! Lol

 

I actually think we hold him till the trade deadline. Our team is better for having him, and we want to keep Dwight fresh over a long season. Waiting till the trade deadline maximizes Asik's value. Jones and Casspi are playing well, so I agree with you that the urgency to go after a 4 isn't there.

I think Morey would cream for Olynyk, but doubt Ainge gives him up. I like Schroeder, but if we're going developmental, I'd rather go with the Greek Nigerian kid on the Bucks. Don't know what Biyombo does for us, Asik's a better defender. But I do think if Morey can convert Asik into a value able pick or picks, he will.

 

there is a reason why bulls fans hate boozer despite of the fact he is bull's leading scorer. for every point that he scores, boozer gives it back to opposing team on defense. just like dmo

 

I never said he was as good as Omer. But he is starting on a team that is currently 13-2, so......

 

Get real man

 

Just keep Asik for the season...

We need him for the playoffs...

Howard can not play 48 min all year...

Jones/Casspi/parsons/dmo/smith can play PF

 

I think I see where you are headed. Since David West starts on a team that is 13-1, Miami should trade Lebron James for him.

 

Nope. The time to trade Asik is now.

Next summer he'll have one year and a balloon payment of $15,000,000 left on the contract. That's a tougher trade: 1 year at 15 or almost 2 years at $20,000,000 (averaging out to "just" $10 million per season).

Not to mention how many times between now and next summer would we see "Bad Omer" ("you feel like playing tonight, Omer?" "Omer not feeling good, Omer not play") if we kept him?

 

The best trade is no trade. We have passed the stage of keep shuffling the roster, and Asik is the kind of backup center you can't find once let go. Wish Yao had Asik as backup in the old days, and he may be still playing with couple rings.

 

Since most fans are claiming for Asik/Lin trade(for me,I'd like to keep them because I like their effort and what they contribute to the team,if not...)the best possible trade scenario that we can pulled right now is w/ the Bulls,Luol Deng/Hinrich for Asik/Lin straight up,fits and needs will be compatible on both teams

 

trade him..he will pout again for sure..

 

While the ideal Trade would be a backup center and a wing defender IMO, I think it would be best to trade for best talent possible. Even if it can be redundant. Trades in the nba are restrictive as it gets given the low number of players and assets available at any given time. Rather than finding the right fit, sometimes you really should just go for the best players.

Settling for mediocre players like Lopez doesn't work. I'd rather get BPA.

 

So true. The minute we trade Asik is the minute we realize that we need a rim protector to spell Dwight. And over the course of the long season, i'm not sure i want Dwight playing in all the games. A night off every once and a while might be the smart thing come March.

We have enough in Casspi, Jones and Dmo to watch it gel and let that play out at the 4-spot. We are actually not weak at any position right now. Jones has been a revelation at PF, we are set at SF, obviously Howard and Asik would be the best 1-2 center combo in the NBA. Lin is the most improved player on our team. Beverly is Beverly, and we have elite depth with Brooks, so we are set at the point. Lastly we have Harden playing a tremendous amount of minutes at the 2 (and when he goes the bench, Lin just slides over anyway).

Point being, we don't really have any holes right now. We just need to let things gel. 20 games from now, we'll look like a completely different team, and the personnel won't have changed. This is where teams can make a mistake by not being patient. There is absolutely no reason to make a deal right now. We just need to let things play out, and we'll be 3rd or 4th in the west in the new year.

 

We will not win a championship as is. Yes...we will need another rim protector if we don't get one when we trade Asik.

It's a dilemma but you should be able to tell we won't win a championship as currently constructed. We've still got to make some more moves.

 

Asik you trade because he wants out.

Lin you consider trading because it's the only way you make salaries work for a larger acquisition. Asik + filler can cover up to $15-$16M in salaries (150% incoming rule if you're below the cap).

However, if you make a play for a $19-20M+ player, then you have to bundle Lin unless you're shipping out 5 or 6 players.

It comes down to what you can achieve in terms of the CBA less than whether you want to keep Lin.

There's at least a dozen PG's that will either be lateral, upgrade, or minor downgrade moves that you can get to replace Lin at his current level of production.

There's only so many all star/superstar players to go around. So, if Morey really find another All Star/Superstar available and the salaries don't work, then Lin will have to be part of the package.

It's simply common sense.

That said, if Morey can hold onto Lin AND get an All Star/Superstar, then I'm guessing that would be what Morey will aim to achieve. Unfortunately, that's easier said than done.

 

Would we be getting him to start?