YEAH I CHECKED PAUL GEORGE LEADERSHIP RATING AND IT WAS LIKE 99 AND HARDENS IS LIKE 84 POINT NEGATIVE 2/3 SO TOTALLY THIS IS SETTLED AND THIS IS THE END OF IT NOW I'M GONNA GO THROW AN TURNIP AT A LLAMA
What ****ing baggage does Harden have? Where are you people getting this nonsense. We have the worst ****ing fanbase, Jesus Christ.
Up to this point in their careers I have to give the edge to Harden but it's close. I guess people forget just what he's capable of when he's healthy. George could make up some ground this year, we'll see. It's entirely too early to use this year as a sample. And tearing down the other player to support your argument might not be the best tactic. Both are great players.
Sometimes I wonder.... I wonder if Pacer fans have a thread "Durant or Paul George?" or do Portland fans have a "Love or Aldridge?" what is even the point? Feels like the entire point of this thread is for people to bash on Harden and then tell everyone else how much better Paul George is and how it's not even a contest between the two.
Just, because some Rocket fans rank PG above Harden, you make it seem like it's bashing? Is it bashing if I think Lebron James is better than Harden? Is the "Houston Rockets Trade Ideas" thread just a way to bash the entire Rockets team? The point of this thread is similar to all the other threads in this forum. Something to talk about in between games. Every fan base talks about their players. Check pacersdigest. There's several threads comparing George to other Pacer forwards or trying to rank George in the NBA, with some Pacer fans even arguing Harden is better than George.
Do a search on Google for Harden vs Paul George. This isn't exactly a new discussion. It's been taking place in lots of places on the internet since last season. And it's not necessarily a bashing thread, it does however pose a reasonable basketball question. Seriously, some folks need to take off the sensitivity lenses. Not every discussion of a player's strengths and weaknesses is "bashing" them any more than comparing Dragic, Lowry and Lin is bashing any of them as long as it's an actual basketball discussion.
I'm pretty sure everybody would rank Lebron over Harden and even the hardest of Rocket fans wouldn't disagree there... This Harden situation is quite different, lets not pretend we don't have a bunch of new users who come in already disliking Harden and seeing him in the way for other players success... I've never seen a Thunder fan clamor for Lebron, hell some Laker fans don't even want Lebron on the team because they want to always think Kobe is better than him. There is a certain pride a fanbase takes in supporting their superstar player. I saw it with Yao/McGrady but with Harden on this forums it feels off. It is a reasonable question, but how reasonable is it to say Paul George over Harden and it's not even close. Reading through this thread there is certainly a lot of vitriol coming Harden's way. If people were being reasonable about it, I'd agree...but people are not. I've never soured on PGs game or said it was a fluke or anything. I just question if he can win the superstar matchups, and that does include Lebron and Durant because if he's going to be up there he has to compete against those guys. Saying Paul George is THAT much better than Harden is not reasonable. There is a reason why some of us who have been around here for a few years see so many comments as just disrespectful. Even when Tmac was compared to Kobe or Dwight to Yao I can't remember so many Rocket fans not even give their guy a shot in the discussion. Sure there were haters here and there but it feels like half of the board doesn't even like Harden. But this isn't even part of the discussion I guess, I still think rating PG over Harden so solidly after 14 games now is a bit silly. Especially when one guy has not been healthy all season and his stats still mirror the other guys despite his lack of health.
Harden's offense is far more advanced than Paul George. Hes a much better scorer, even if he's struggling from the field he can still get to the line and generate. George is just much better defensively, immense length, can defend all the wing positions, but you can't underestimate the value of being able to create your own shot, and Harden does that better.
Also its not really fair to compare an obviously injured Harden while everyone is all aboard the PG hype train.
I'm sure a great number of the negative posts on Harden here came after the series of poor defensive sequences of his, most notably against Reddick. You have to admit, injury or not, it was pretty damn frustrating watching a "superstar" get slapped around by supposedly average, or offensively below average NBA players, a la Thabo.
Page 27 and there is still room for random potshots against our own player. I said long ago this was the reason for this thread's existence. I'll refrain from starting a "Lin or Conley?" thread, since it would be such a transparent invitation to take potshots at Lin. Fake basketball philosophers with your irrelevant thought experiments. Who gives a **** about Paul George? Go to the damn Pacers board with this crap.
But the truth is you will not see Pacer fans post like" Harden or Paul George?". but for "Durant or Paul George?" or "James or Paul George?" is possible post. so i guess some fans are just too sensitive to that. Paul George is plain better than Harden.
There's nothing wrong with comparing players. ESPN does it every year, from 1 through 500, so do lots of other publications. Just something to talk about.
Except no, it is not that simple. The numbers say it is not the simple and nor does performance or simple results. So no. Paul George is not just plain simply better than Harden. You are right, some people are too sensitive around here. That's the reason no one would be crazy enough to make a Lin or Conley thread too.
Oh, please. There's a year long thread of Lin vs Dragic vs Lowry. You're right, there's no simple answer to who's better between PG or Harden. The general consensus is Harden has a more developed offensive game, but PG has a better all-round game. However, I think the question being posed is: Would you take PG or Harden if we had a choice tomorrow? Houston has a plethora of options on offense, but we're stagnated by a lack of defensive players. George is fast enough to cover SGs and big enough to cover some PFs. Couple that with a decent offensive game, you can understand why some people can make the definitive call. Ask yourself this, if we make it to the finals, who's going to cover Lebron and Wade? I can also see an argument being made the other way. Harden is a key leader of the current Rockets team. He's also a clutch shooter and can single handedly bring enough offense to win a game. However, that's the point of a forum, to discuss things. No one is going to discuss in a Lebron vs Harden thread.
