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Do we draft a QB in the first round?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Sydeffect, Nov 10, 2013.

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Should we draft a QB in the first round?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. DonnyMost

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    I've called him great from time to time, but really I think Gary is a great OC 15 years ago. Now he's just good. The NFL passed him by.
     
  2. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Steve Smith was good in Cam's first year, but he has fallen off... He is a number 2 or 3 on a championship team... a lot of Cam's interceptions come because Steve Smith gets in Cam's ear about force feeding him the ball...
     
  3. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    lol more propoganda.. i go by stats, you go by media hype

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332910097

    Teddy Bridgewater was 29/38 for 341 with 2 td's with 9.0 yards an attempt... he lit up UCF's vaunted defense... UCF scored with 23 seconds left in the game, and the cards recieved the ball at the 8 yard line... but whatever i want Bridgewater on the Vikings or Jags anyways... i think he will excel there

    Derek Carr would be a good fit for the texans or maybe Mariota if he comes out( who is a better version of Kaepernick to me)
     
  4. Bear_Bryant

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    I went by what I saw. Vaunted UCF Defense? Ok have fun defending that.
     
  5. Major

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    Certainly - if there's not a realistic franchise QB at the top, then certainly trade down or pick something else. I don't know enough about any of the QBs to say if they are one or the other. Certainly there's no one talked about like a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, which is unfortunate. But I think if you can get a Matthew Stafford or Matt Ryan type, that's good too - basically a QB you can reliably pencil in for 10 years and not have to worry about as a piece that could hold you back.
     
  6. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    your eyes may have tricked you, the stats wont
     
  7. Nick

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    Sure... I just think there isn't much on paper/pro days/or college film you can do to say who will be Matt Stafford/Matt Ryan/Philip Rivers (good QB's who aren't busts, but have never been considered as one of the top 3-4 best QB's in the league)... and who will be David Carr/Mark Sanchez/Byron Leftwich/Joey Harrington/JaMarcus Russel/etc.
     
  8. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Andrew Luck has not lived up to the hype, i wish people would stop putting his name in the same sentence with Peyton, Peyton came into the NFL when defense was actually still played. Luck is in the most pass happy era of the NFL ever, and still cant complete 60% of his passes


    Jameis Winston is the best prospect since Peyton/Elway

    Luck is a more mobile/ athletic Alex Smith... best case he's a poor mans Eli
     
  9. Nick

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    I wish you'd stop going nuts whenever somebody mentions anything good about Luck... as if he's some trashy QB that is being propped up by a 2000 Ravens-like Roster. He's a talented QB who is currently on a winning team... which is in large part due to him (not all due to him, but he's not meaningless).

    Shouldn't you be prepping to see how RG3 does agains the 49ers? A team that Luck beat on the road?
     
  10. Major

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    Sure - that's true of all positions. If there was a way to be certain, there would be no busts. You hire a front office and a coaching staff and then you have to rely on their evaluation process. My point was that some guys - like Alex Smith - were picked #1 not because people thought they would be great, but simply because they needed a QB and they were the best available and people thought they could be good enough.

    I don't think that's a good route to go - drafting a QB for the sake of it. But if the scouts decide one of these guys has real franchise QB potential, then you don't pass that up just because you're not certain or worried they might bust. Clowney or whomever else is picked up there could just as well be a bust too.
     
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    No one cares what you think because you no one thinks you have any semblence of objectivity. So get used to people continuing to talk about Andrew Luck as a great young QB.
     
  13. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Luck had 1 rushing td with less than 4 minutes in that game, and finished with 159 yards passing... yea he sure beat them
     
  14. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    ok he's great, but by your very definition his peers are greater than him... if you go by stats, and not media hype
     
  15. Nick

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    Not if your definition includes wins.

    If you go by stats alone, Drew Bledsoe is a HOF QB.
     
  16. SkyrimOwnsAll

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    Alex Smith wins games too, it doesnt mean anything

    sometimes it better to win games with amazing stats than just win with terrible stats( its why i wasnt a big fan on vince young), thats when you know you have arrived.
     
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    Just as long as you agree that winning is more important than losing with amazing stats... because to me, THAT doesn't mean anything.

    A QB's ability to win games means something... eventually if the QB is awful, the team will stop winning.

    Jeff George had some amazing stats and combine numbers as well.
     
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    I'd like Bridgewater, so I answered yes. If Bridgewater is off the board, I'd be satisfied with Mariota. Anybody else, and I'd rather take another position of need and draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. I'm afraid of Manziel.
     
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    and I would skip over every one of those guys in a heart beat with out blinking and eye to draft Jake Matthews (RT) with our first rounder.

    Honestly I only see 2 or 3 of those guys as having potential franchise qb type ability.
     
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    Brief, and to the point, I like it. I don't think Manziel can physically survive the abuse of being an NFL QB, not at his size. If the Texans draft third, and Bridgewater and Mariota are gone, I hope we get BPA and draft a QB that falls to the second.
     

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