Texas liberals shamefully protest Perry's measures to safeguard women's health

The choice was put in the hands on the actual human. The baby is an extension of the woman until actual birth

 

Did I ever say that? It would be breaking the law

 

The woman is physically connected to the baby, an extension of her body, until birth. Am I wrong? You made the assumption that I thought abortion was fine until birth. Use actual statements and not assumptions if you want to have an actual discussion.

 

It isn't a baby and it doesn't have a choice as long as it is more analogous to a parasite than it is to a human, what with being unable to exist outside the woman's uterus. The woman, conversely, DOES have (and deserves to have) the choice as to whether her uterus is used to bring a fetus to term.

No hypocrisy at all, it is the difference between a living, breathing human being (you know, one that has been born) and a biological mass utterly dependent on the biological processes of the woman in whom it is developing.

 

With overpopulation becoming a issue in the future, I highly doubt it.

 

Yes, and I would personally be OK with viability being the "line in the sand" regarding abortion.

If viability is the line, it will change as medical technology does. I am on record as saying that I would be OK with banning abortion altogether once we have the technology to remove the fetus from the woman's uterus, then incubate artificially.

It will look particularly unkindly on people who claim to be "pro-life" who do nothing whatsoever to help the situation, people like yourself who actually seem to believe that a ban on abortions would be effective in any way, shape or form. History will look unkindly on people who call others "baby killers" while opposing effective tactics like ubiquitous contraception and early reproductive education.

History will look unkindly on people like you, there is no doubt about it.

 

So you advocate adopting a steadfast position with compete disregard for new information.

Your posts make so much sense now.

 

Of course my definition will change as technology does, that is hardly flimsy or arbitrary, it is intelligent analysis of the operating environment. I suppose you don't understand such analysis.

ROFL, education and access to contraception are two things that are directly related to reduced abortion rates, if you think they are "tangents," then you are even less intelligent than I originally thought.

I am not "pro-abortion" in any way, language like that is inflammatory and just serves to make me believe you are an ass and unworthy of even talking to.

 

Ubiquitous contraception and sex education don't cover all instances of unwanted pregnancies. Think harder.

 

I agree with you.

So let's value life. Let's value at the point we're remotely close to being able to say we think it's sustainable on its own. And let's value it when it's 6 years old and has a mom that is irresponsible. And let's value it when it's 86 years old and desperately needs a safety net. Let's value it because it's all we have. It's all we're entrusted to protect.

But I completely agree with your position with respect to this particular issue...at least as I understand your position with respect to this particular issue based on this post.

If we can sustain it, let's sustain it. And let's allow the possibility of that to change us enough to dare to respect it when it's otherwise unlovable. That's a world that's worth fighting for.

 

As always, Madmax dropping diamonds in here. Poetry. Repped.

 

Not of you, certainly.

It is a bull**** question, ask an honest one and agree to answer any that I ask and I will be happy to discuss.

 

You give me hope that there are a large number of principled pro-life individuals out there who are free of the vitriol and venom that characterizes people like texxx when discussing abortion.