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[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Cat, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. mfastx

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    Kind of discouraging to see all these LOF's want Lin to get traded to another team, reminds me of how little they care about the Rockets.

    Lin is having the best season if his career, and he is playing for the ROCKETS. Enjoy it.
     
  2. cdblue10

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    WE better end this discussion,no coach in a right mind that he will put one of your best player in the bench"I've said one the best player and that is Lin"for sure a lot of people will oppose this,but this is what I see it so far.Harden is great individually but he can't carry the 1st and second unit like Lin do.It is the coaching job to assign particular role for his players and play w/ in their strengths.On the defensive end,the defensive coach will be the one to device a defensive plan for the entire team,NBA had already changed a lot,it's already a combination of zone and man to man defense,no player can stop a very good point guard unless you have a good team defense(look at Miami and Spurs defense that's how to do it).We have a very good team as long as the coach knows how to do his job,bottom line start your best 5 players and finish w/ your best players,that how to win basketball
     
  3. kmart9419

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    Really is that simple.
     
  4. roxxy

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    Wow you need to slow down for bit
    1) Yes he will be as aggressive because he can shoot now.
    2) Not it isn't delusional the reason why he wasn't aggressive last year was becuase he couldn't hit 3's. Now that he can hit 3's teams have to defend him tighter. Lin has a quick first step so he can blow by his defender and get into the lane.
    3) i have no issue w/ Lin passing the ball to harden adn watching him because the ball will come back to him because he can hit 3's. last year I had an issue w/ it because Lin couldn't hit the broad side of the barn. Now that he has a working perimeter shot I am ok w/ Lin standing on the 3point line.

    1) Lin starting is better for this team because he is the only guy that can hit 3's at a high % thus far.
    Lin 44%
    Parsons 26%
    Beverly 30%
    Caspi 37%
    Harden 29%
    Brooks 25%
    Garcia 34%
    Is that cogent enough for you?
    2) I do not want Lin to be linsanity. i want him to be an above average Pg that can hit the 3, drive and score at the rim, get FT's in bunches and have a few steals turnovers assists and rebounds and run an efficient offense. He doesn't need to be 30pts 10 assits Linsanity Lin shooting 50/40/80 I would be ecstatic with 15pts 6 assits 47%FG 37%3FG


    1) Nobody wants last years version of Lin.
    2) Lin is so much better this year because he can shoot 3's so if he has to stand around and watch harden and Howard he can reliably hit the perimeter shot plus we need guys in teh starting unit who can hit 3's because right now its just jeremy
    3) i have no issue with Lin off the bench I just think your argument for rationalizing the decision is wrong.
     
  5. seven7seven

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    Lin will do well starting or from off the bench, that's not the point. He's doing great because he worked damn hard in the off season. My point from an earlier post is that by not starting Lin, I think Rockets are opening the door for Lin to leave as soon as a better offer comes in for him. Lin is a true pro and will try to play his best, even if he's unhappy, but with the way he's playing and it being made clear by Lin himself that he would rather start, other teams might try to take him and offer what he wants. All for the sake of separating him from Harden, for the first 6 minutes of every game, but still playing them together for most of the time, seems to be of little value while at the same time giving Lin every reason to look for the exit.

    I understand why people are saying it doesn't matter from a team perspective whether he starts or not, and this is true, his production is equally good in either scenario. The point is Lin wants to be the starter to justify his current salary and be in a stronger position to negotiate future deals and endorsements. Being a starter is always preferable to being a bench role player in this respect. To deny Lin this when he's playing so well and the reasons to not start him are so flimsy just does not make sense to me.
     
  6. cdblue10

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    Are you asking?Or you're not sure what to say?Yes .That's how to do it and if you fall and lose,then you did you're job as a coach and it didn't just go your way.
     
  7. kmart9419

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    It's that easy. But mchale likes to make simple things complicated.
     
  8. cdblue10

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    That's a different story, on that part for sure a lot us knows it already...lol
     
  9. Caris

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    It's not just about 'face' and 'prestige' - it's a man's lifelong dream stripped from him unceremoniously. The Rockets never stated whatsoever that Lin is the official 6th man nor was there a press release about the "true intent" behind it.

    I do not wish for Lin to be a superstar (yet). He still needs to improve. My wish is that he be given the mere opportunity to show what he can do with his improvements as a starter.

    Bev is a good player but he is also not a proven solution yet.

     
  10. Caris

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    I'm seriously curious (I'm new here) - did the Rockets ever care for many of its players?


     
  11. sun

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    I think it is not about Lin or any individual player, it is about the team.

    Starting or not has nothing to do with matching issue, that is what substitution is for. If a coach solves player matching problem through starting lineup, that is a problem.

    Starters usually play longer per game and contribute more. There are exceptions, but they are rare exceptions.

    NBA players prefer starting. It is a confirmation of their ability and award for their contribution. Whether he handles it well or not, players will be negatively impacted if removed from starting lineup. It is a coach's responsibility to ensure that impoartant players work in their best state.

    Merit based evaluation is good for the moral of a team, which affects a team's performance.

    True fans point out issues that they notice. They care about the long term healthy development of their team.
     
  12. Rileydog

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    I sorta figured that was the case. But why the emphasis on perception by others, especially the dumbasses on other forums?
     
  13. kmart9419

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    Cause I'm from New York and I hear it constantly.
     
  14. RRockets

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    Rockets have "Assets", not players.
     
  15. Caris

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    For the team's interest, maybe. (We need a bigger sample size.) For Lin's interest, not good. (Iron sharpens iron.)


     
  16. Rileydog

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    It's the latter. The team should open w a focus on harden and Howard, with Beverly on point defense. At the highest level of competition, that is our best allocation of resources. Our team needs the pg to expend a ton of time on defense against the elite teams. Lins best talent is going full Linsanity to make plays and score. He should be set up to burn energy on that, not chasing Parker, Westbrook, cp3 and the like. It's not about the whole league or starting in general, it's about preparing to face and beat the best in the west.
     
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  17. Pumpedupkicks

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    I'm sure the Rockets care, but under Morey, every player (not a star) is an asset. Let's say you want to invest in a Rockets' jersey to show support for the team, my advice stay away from any jersey without Harden or Howard on the back. : )
     
  18. Rileydog

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    Not really. Or popovich (ginobli), Phil Jackson (Lamar odom), Bill Fitch, George Karl and a host of other HOF coaches are idiots.
     
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  19. Caris

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    Then why do the Rockets fans insist that we should care about the Rockets? It's not that I don't (I want Jeremy's team to succeed). I just care more about the player, living flesh and blood person with feelings.


     
  20. Caris

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    I appreciate the advice. ;)
    It's Morey's era right now so I guess I can safely say the Rockets don't care about the players.

     

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