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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DH78, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. Voice of Aus

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    Offence has not been that much of a problem for us, we are ranked one of the top tier offensive teams whilst our three ball has been non existent in stretches. I hope mchale is telling the starters to try and get on the fast break more now that TT is over for the time been.
     
  2. RRockets

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    Yes, pnr is better than his so called post moves until he really shows us how to do it.

    I saw one terrible example during the last game. He got the ball near the rim, and just about to do ... whatever he was supposed to do, the ball was stripped from his (right?) hand. I was thinking, Dwight, if you keep doing this, nobody is going to give you any more entry passes.
     
  3. DH78

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    While this is true, wouldn't you agree that our offense looks terrible sometimes in the half court set? And isn't our defense against the pick and roll one of the worst in the league? Or is it just my bad eye test?

    And why is this a 1 star thread? Did I offend someone with this subject? If so, I won't post anymore about it.
     
  4. jtr

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    NBA head coaches have a difficult job attempting to balance the egos, desires and moods of their players. It becomes critically important when managing players who are superstars. If McHale did not already know (no chance of that) Morey will have made him well aware of the superiority of the Howard P&R over the Howard post up. I feel sure all of the Rockets coaches are doing the best that they can.
     
  5. johnnytsunami

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    I'm pretty sure it's due more to the title of the thread than the content itself..
     
  6. Voice of Aus

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    I think it's because the title gives the impression the thread is about mchale which has countless threads dedicated to it instead the title should have something to do with the PnR perhaps
     
  7. RRockets

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    yes, it should be soemthing like "Rockets should do more pnr with ..."
     
  8. DH78

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    I agree. How do I change it?
     
  9. hlmbasketball

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    WOULD HAVE NEVER PUT OMER ASIK IN THE STARTING LINEUP!!! HE CAUSED MORE DAMAGE THAN GOOD. IF HE WOULD HAVE HAD HIM COMING OFF THE BENCH INITALLY, HE COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER ADJUSTED.

    I WOULD START T.JONES NEXT TO HOWARD AND BRING OMER,D-MO, LIN, GARCIA, AND OMAR OFF THE BENCH. IT GIVES YOUR STARTERS MORE REST AND IT BREEDS UNITY, BECAUSE EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO CONTRIBUTE. WHY HAVE TALENT AND NOT USE IT???
     
  10. kmart9419

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    Its a shame. Rockets probably have the top 3 pick and roll players on the same team and they rather run isos.
     
  11. kmart9419

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    Dwight wants everybody else to suck it up, he needs to do the same. His post moves are ugly as hell and usually ends up with a turnover. Dwight + Kobe + Nash (no pnr) --> first round exit. Don't repeat history.
     
  12. kmart9419

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    You are getting the rookie treatment. Older CFs are really acting like cranky old men. Five stars for you.
     
  13. whiskeyred

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    If I were Mchale, I'd create Cluthfans account and troll the GARM
     
  14. FTW Rockets FTW

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    I would quit ASAP and ask Morey to hire a real coach that the players' respect and knows X's and O's of basketball
     
  15. johnnytsunami

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    I agree. Too bad McHale caters to his superstars' desires rather than the team's needs, evident with the iso-heavy offense and hideous Howard post-ups (which is not completely his fault, this is a superstar driven league afterall -- many coaches have been fired or resigned due to tiffs with their superstars, Howard himself and SVG being a fairly recent example..). It's pretty clear that we will just have to deal with the ugliness of watching Howard's "post moves" several times per game (I still don't understand why he hasn't learn a counter move to his desired power dribble right from the left block to the middle for a righty jump hook move.. all he has to do is spin move to the left from that right power dribble for an easy layup when they are overplaying his "go-to move", if you can even call it that).
     
  16. kingkingston

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    Dwight has never really had a coach that taught him post moves, he has one now and you have to be blind if you don't see that he is slowly improving his post moves.

    it won't happen overnight but by the end of the season, he will look far better at doing them.

    too many people here want things to click straight away
     
  17. jtr

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    Yep. But McHale has spent the last 30 years of his life in the NBA and is almost universally respected as one of the top 50 all time great players, he will know how to handle Howard better than most. Howard is here for years and it is a long season. We will see how it develops. Perhaps with a super star like Howard it is better to gradually persuade than to dictate. You think?
     
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    Knicks offering Rockets Shump for Asik
     
  19. johnnytsunami

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    I would argue that he actually looked better in Orlando when it comes to post moves.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slOlB_LfB-o

    Some of his moves in these highlights are actually very fluid and effective, which I have yet to see this year (I have watched 9/10 Rockets games this year, including in person at the Clippers game). @00:23 Howard actually does the counter move I explained above, which has inexplicably left his game in Houston. Unless he is still not completely healthy, which could be true and a concern, I don't see how he has improved. Yes, he is learning from the two of the absolute best post move players in McHale and Hakeem, but the problem is that Dwight does not have the feet work nor fluidity to perform Hakeem's moves. I have yet to see him do anything McHale-like in the post. You have to keep it simple with Howard, sometimes it seems like he holds the ball for a few seconds just because he is thinking and trying to decide what he should do, which usually leads into turnovers. Posting up is all about reading and reacting to what the defense gives you, and Dwight's moves seem predetermined like 90% of the time. I'm not saying he can't be an effective post player, he just needs to keep it simple, and react to the defense a lot better -- which he has definitely not been doing this year.
     
  20. jtr

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    Off topic but why would the Rockets ever trade a top 7 player at the weakest NBA position (second? SG) for someone who realistically would not take minutes away from either Harden or Parsons?
     

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