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[ClutchFans] Asik Trade Demand Doubles The Trouble For Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 15, 2013.

  1. treeman

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    Is there any way to get Camby back? Waiving him seems like a pretty shortsighted move now, especially if the FO was aware of Asik's discontent.
     
  2. IzakDavid13

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    Camby is injured.
     
  3. NewAge

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    Hahaha! I like better Adams/J.Lamb/Dallas top20 protected pick.
    You know what I mean ;) get back what's ours...
     
  4. dobro1229

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    Just had foot surgery and probably will be out till Februaryish. He'll be picked up one way or another late in the season if he heals up fine afterwards, or the Rox will pick up or trade for another backup. Not too worried about Morey finding a backup at some point when all this blows over. Also keep an eye on the Phoenix Okafor situation. He's very likely to get bought out at some point this year.

    Most important thing about this trade is to get maximum value for him. Could be a pick, expiring, young talent or useful player. Because you don't know who might come available at a later date and u want to be ready to make a deal if you can. The Rockets are one really good vet player away from being true contenders. This Asik situation can alter their plans to bring in that 3rd piece if they don't play this right and get good value for him.
     
  5. Naismith

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    Yessss, This!!! This!!!
     
  6. YallMean

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    He is actually under that contract to perform, including guarding the water cooler.
     
  7. caneks

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    Why would a player need to play up to his contract? My understanding is that he will only if he likes his situation. This is exactly what is happening here and in every other teams. So why would anyone blame him? He is getting his paycheck no matter what. In the very end, Rockets will be the only party taking losses.
     
  8. Joemambo

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    The other day at McDonalds, they hired a guy who could flip burgers faster than me, so they demoted me to fry guy. I'm not going back to work until they trade me to Burger King!
     
  9. Easy

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    But you didn't have a guaranteed contract.

    Guaranteed contract is just that. I've been advocating to abolition GC, or at least to diminish its impact. But the Players Association will never agree. In a system like the NBA, it's the management's burden to make sure players perform up to their contracts. In this case, they signed Howard and they knew that there could be an issue with Asik.

    People say that Asik has the contract so he is supposed to perform. I agree. But, a lot of players under-perform their contracts for a variety of reasons. It sucks for the teams that signed these players. But that's the system. You sign them and you bear the possibility of them under-performing.
     
  10. dandorotik

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    Kevin McHale was the 6th man, then got the starting nod, and then went back to the bench without complaint, So, **** ***, Assik:

    "Bird was an instant success, earning Rookie of the Year and first team all-league in his first season. Kevin McHale was a great reserve at first and became the latest Celtic super sixth man over his first four years before an injury to Cedric Maxwell finally got him into the starting lineup in the 1984-85 season. Yet he returned to his sixth man role for much of his last three years..."
     
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    This is what I posted. Of all the coaches in the world, mchale understand and demands you accept ur role. You're not gonna get sympathy from a hof player who only started 3 yrs.
     
  12. Deckard

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    That's why I find Stein difficult to believe. I certainly think Omer asked for a trade, but every week since July? I simply don't buy it. Asik doesn't seem the type at all.
     
  13. gmoney411

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    Kevin McHale isn't a good comparison. He might have been coming off the bench but he was playing over 30 minutes a game. I highly doubt Asik would be behaving this way if the Rockets were going to play him that much. Asik knows that he will be lucky to get 20 minutes most nights.
     
  14. Deckard

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    That's an excellent point, and I'm not sure what can be done about it at this point. Anyone have any ideas, besides a trade? I was one of those who thought the Twin Towers idea was well worth trying, but the results speak for themselves. A guy like Asik, after finally getting a full 82 games as a starter (and playing very, very well), isn't going to be happy with 12-15 minutes a game.
     
  15. gmoney411

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    I think you just have to let him go. Asik really is handling this in a terribly unprofessional way but I get it for him more than i would for most players. This is the exact same position he was in with the Bulls. He was playing 15 minutes a game backing up Noah on a contending team before he left to join the Rockets. Taking a step back in your career isn't easy and we have no idea what kind of promises the Rockets really made to him. If anything this kind of behavior on his part makes me think that the Rockets might have lied to him about playing time.
     
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  16. caneks

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    lol, I wonder why McDonalds did not pull the trigger and have the position filled by other. McDonalds has no obligation on contract to keep anyone and has the full right on this. Perhaps McDonalds does not want to lose any assets?
     
  17. caneks

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    Many people talk about that Asik should perform upto his contract, however, people forget that NBA players are human being, not robot, they will get emotional and usually perform best in preferred circumstance.

    Will James and Dwight ask for trade in a similar situation?
     
  18. jim1961

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    In my mind, Asik's frustration is only partly about minutes, but much more so about starting. It seems he is looking at this exclusively through the lens of being demoted. His Ego is thoroughly bruised and basically the wind has fallen completely out of his sails in terms of self esteem.

    If Asik was taking his change in status like Lin has, then further experiment and trial could reveal additional ways to get Asik minutes. Although unlikely, Asik could "see the light" and still allow this to happen.

    As far as alternatives to a trade, Asik and/or Howard developing an outside shot would help ;) A change in Asik's attitude is a must for any alternative to have legs.
     
  19. Deckard

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    And I can't help but wonder if a lot of this is driven by his agent, who is looking forward to Omer's next contract being a large one. I imagine he isn't crazy about the idea of Asik playing 12-15 minutes a game, from his perspective (and his percentage).
     
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    I'm turkish origin and I'm proud of Asik . But I'm very objective . I support his decision to be traded. But I can't accept his unwillingness to play , it's not ethical and very unprofessional . He had a huge season last year and definitely deserves to start or play more minutes , but he made a bad move . I think his credibility took a huge shot .

    I don't know if he's acting emotionally or taking bad advice , it's not working . This shouldn't be the way...
     

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