great reddit post re: lin

awc713 · Nov 15, 2013

i posted this the other night, but...

about a week ago, someone in the GARM posted an excellent read on lin that was originally from Reddit.

I've dug through CF and Reddit to no avail. I would usually say fuggit, but this was one of the best pieces I've ever read on CF. If someone could post it again, that'd be great. I'd love to show it to some friends, and I'm sure those who missed it would like to read it here.

Best,

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RoxOn RoxOff · Nov 15, 2013

what was it about?

and ls is the best 3 years of ur life, enjoy it

kuku · Nov 15, 2013

IBTL This one?
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=8408678&postcount=10

shastarocket · Nov 16, 2013

The actual post: http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1qae7n/how_good_is_jeremy_lin_really/cdavr24

Both. You can think of 7 Seconds or Less as a system that syper charges the best qualities of a PG which then hides their greatest weaknesses because of the box score numbers.

For Nash, that meant his playmaking and shooting skills were highlighted. But it hid his poor defense.

For Duhon, it highlighted his efficiency - high Ast/TO rate. But it hid his poor scoring abilities. In many ways, he is the antithesis of Lin; outside shooter who can't drive and always makes the safe play instead of a risky one.

For Lin, it highlighted his raw scoring abilities and passing skills. But it hid his inexperience in decision making (when your coach says to just do 2 things, you don't have to think much).

The problem with Lin so far is that his career has been mired by having to adjust to different coaches and to playing seemingly every type of PG style imaginable.

In Golden State, his was told to work on his shooting and not to drive. Given the lack of minutes, it might be good advice but it prevented him from developing his best skill (which is why it took until now for him to learn to use his left, which he has done very well this season). Basically, they wanted him to be a traditional PG that doesn't score so they can slot him in next to Monta or Curry.

In NY, he got to be an attacking PnR PG under D'Antoni. Then under Woodson, he became more of a tempo pusher / setup PG.

Then last year in Houston, he was set to be a PnR PG again until they signed Harden. Then they turned him into an offball PG (think any PG in Phil Jackson's Triangle Offense except in a run & gun system - makes no sense).

Finally this year, they decided at the END of the summer to tell him that he'd be playing as a 6th man scoring PG (think Jarett Jack but far far less usage rate). thus marginalizing his opportunities to be a playmaker.

In his career, that means he has had to adapt and play to 5 different PG playing styles. Of which, 4 of the style changes happened in under 2 years (one summer of which was spent recovering from injury). And of which, only one style really fits him as an inexperienced player. As a 3rd year pro, I can't think of any player in any position that has had to deal with as much change as Lin. So it is expected in my opinion that Lin should not be a good decision maker at this point.

To rant a bit, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to judge how good Lin is compared to any other PG right now because McHale hasn't decided how to use Lin. We don't know what kind of PG Lin is/can/should be. So it is unfair to compare him to other players who know their roles. I know people are annoyed at McHale for not making Lin the primary playmaker, but I personally am pissed at him for dumping Lin to 6th man and changing his role AT THE LAST SECOND. It is a sign of a terrible coach when you cannot decide before training camp what role to give to your "starting" PG. People can say what they want of the D'Antonis, Mike Browns, and Larry Browns of the world. They may not know how to best utilize all of their players but at least they implement a system and force everyone to buy in. Players know what they have to do and they go out and (try to) do it.
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awc713 · Nov 16, 2013

kuku said: ↑

IBTL This one?
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=8408678&postcount=10
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Yup!

Thanks!

WinkFan · Nov 16, 2013

That piece is terrible, the Triangle and Jarett Jack references are not accurate at all. Lin doesn't play for Houston anything like a guy like Derrick Fisher, and his usage rate is higher than Jack's.

Despite all this kind of whining and complaining, things seem to be working out pretty well for Lin.

Kudos to Kevin McHale for the great job he is doing developing Lin.

pnr · Nov 16, 2013

WinkFan said: ↑

That piece is terrible, the Triangle and Jarett Jack references are not accurate at all. Lin doesn't play for Houston anything like a guy like Derrick Fisher, and his usage rate is higher than Jack's.

Despite all this kind of whining and complaining, things seem to be working out pretty well for Lin.

Kudos to Kevin McHale for the great job he is doing developing Lin.
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His usage is lower than Jack's.

lfw · Nov 16, 2013

WinkFan said: ↑

That piece is terrible, the Triangle and Jarett Jack references are not accurate at all. Lin doesn't play for Houston anything like a guy like Derrick Fisher, and his usage rate is higher than Jack's.

Despite all this kind of whining and complaining, things seem to be working out pretty well for Lin.

Kudos to Kevin McHale for the great job he is doing developing Lin.
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Actually, you should give kudos to this guy in the middle for developing Lin:

Lin's shooting coach: Doc Scheppler

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