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Stop Giving Dwight The Ball In The Post During Crunch Time

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by PositivityDome, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. gmoney411

    gmoney411 Member

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    There are advanced stats that support Dwight not being an effective post player. My "theory" is backed up with actual numbers. Feel free to google Howard's effectiveness in the post and I'm sure you will come across plenty of articles that say it's not the best way to use him.
     
  2. cerophilik

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    Stop giving the ball to chandler in crunch time. Parsons turns it over or bad pass that lead to a turnover
     
  3. Naruto

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    Let Howard have it. He's paid a lot to do it. For 20M, he should take responsibility else, he's too overpaid.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Post them. From last night. Do it.

    Put up or shut up.

    Contribute something. I dare you. You might even enjoy it. And you can thank me later.
     
  5. KingLeoric

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    Yea Dwight should be our early game attacker and let the opposing team build up fouls. During crunch time his main job should be securing rebounds.
     
  6. gmoney411

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    You seem to think that everybody is basing this off of one game or one play. The ineffectiveness of Howard's post up play isn't a new discussion. Posting stats from one night for an argument based on many games of ineffectiveness/inefficiency is stupid. If you believe Howard is effective in the post then you should find some real facts instead of making up stats where you count points that he didn't get in post up plays. But we all know you want do that. Instead you will act like a child and tell people to shut up.
     
  7. duteman

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    don't give him the ball in the post without a clear outlet. I kept seeing them feed him the ball the clear the side of the floor he's posting. McHale has too much trust in dwights low post game or he's mentally challenged.
     
  8. aelliott

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    Hawes had the better game? Really? Did you actually watch the game?

    Howard outscored Hawes 23-18
    Howard had a better FG% 45% to 43.7%
    Howard had a better FT% 55% to 50%
    Howard outrebounded Hawes 15 to 9
    Howard had more blocked shots 6 to 3.
    Howard had fewer turnovers 2 to 3.
    Howard had more assists 6 to 4.

    Hawes did lead in steals 3 to 2

    Howard did play more minutes than Hawes but if you adjust the numbers to a per36 minutes basis Howard still led in every category mentioned above except steals.

    Philidelphia's bigs were terrified in the lane. They couldn't get rid of the ball fast enough when Howard was in the paint.

    Howard was great defensively while posting a line of 22pts, 15reb, 6 blocks, 6 assists and 2 steals with only 2 turnovers.
     
  9. aziankingz

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    I was actually happy with Howards efforts and scoring, especially in the 4th qtr. He pretty much made Hawes his b**** for most the game, until he left the paint and started shooting 3 pointers. Howard has been great so far the past 2-3 games IMO and usually I am not a big Howard fan because I think he is mentally weak and he seems to not want to improve his game, which carries many flaws.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    I don't *think* that - I *know* it to be a fact.

    Your inability to post anything in support of your thesis only underscores it further.
     
  11. gmoney411

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    I didn't realize you were a mind reader. I apologize. I guess conversations I've had about Dwight Howard's post game in the past never happened. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
     
  12. roxallways

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    I agree, this has become a problem lately. I love Parsons for his grit, heart, and overall value because of his cheap contract. However, Parsons appears to think he is a superstar or something. I cringed when they gave him the ball for the last shot in regulation, just so he can throw up that flat ass shot and hope and pray it goes in. I would have rather them give it to Howard in the post, that would have been a higher percentage try than the clunker Parsons shot up there. Lin had worn down but he was a better option than Parsons too. Just appears there's no defined roles, direction, or anything early on....which goes back to coaching.
     
  13. SamFisher

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  14. Gumblin

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    This team is a mess right now. Anytime you have talent but fail to meet expectations, that's on the coach.
     
  15. gmoney411

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    Well played sir
     
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    Yeah i don't get the hate. He had a nice night out there. Although he does need to work on keep that ball higher so defenders can't tie him up so often. He even attempted a little Hakeem type move with a little jump shot at the end. Produced a nice open look just didn't get it to fall. I honestly can't knock Dwight at all right now. He has looked pretty good offensively and just as effective as ever defensively. I'm a proponent of getting the ball to Dwight as often as possible.
     
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    THIS. The only reason Philly got points in the paint is because when Dwight would go to block a shot no one would put a body on anyone. Way too many second chance points.
     
  18. aziankingz

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    Dwight has had that issue since he started in the the league. His footwork is pretty good, but he needs to keep the ball higher and he could be another Shaq. Sucks that Dwight still has not looked to improve that part of his game, which is a crucial part of his offense - especially since his FT% is so low, defenders are fine with tying him down from dunking or laying it up.
     
  19. Mr. Dominant

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    I'm okay with Howard in crunch time. It's the beginning of the season. Gotta see what we can and can't do.
     
  20. Normalus

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    I rather see Asik with 0.500FT%< than Howard with same defense and 0.400FT%>
     

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