Assigning Responsibility For Sixer Points -Overtime Edition

and Carter-Will wasn't even in the game. Tony Wroten just incorporated his soul

 

I'm convinced McHale is useless when it comes to drawing up plays and making players set up screens for each other. I'm tired of his uselessness in close 4Q games where he just gives up on trying to coach a win. If a losing streak is what forces Morey to consider a HC change, than so be it.

 

I guess if there's one silver lining to this horrific loss, its to see LOFs taking internet-speak so seriously.

Here's a hint: When someone says "Player X cost us the game." They don't actually mean said player is 100% responsible and is the most worthless bum on the planet. It's just frustration at a loss. If I had to count the number of times I felt a player has "cost us a game" in any season I've been a fan, the number would be higher than 100 each season.

 

Lin didn't lose us the game at all, he was the main reason we were even in the game.

I copied my game thread post and put it below.

Maybe you should go back and look at the game. Lin did have some faults in the game,I'm not a LOF but he really didn't have a bad defensive game.

Anderson scored 36 point but he only scored 24 on Lin. At the end of the game Lin had to foul Anderson to stop the clock, that was 2 points so now your down to 22. There was a fast break where nobody got back except for Lin, he had to cover the guy under the basket until somebody got back then he ran out at Anderson, but he hit a 3. That was not Lin's fault, your down to 19 points.

Lin played good D on Anderson all night except for the first two drives of the game, Anderson got by Lin an scored 4 points on those two drives. Besides that Lin played good D and was in Anderson's face, Anderson was just hitting tough shots and had a great night.

 

It wasn't for lack of trying. Lin was on him like glue but Anderson is much taller, maybe four inches. Did you watch the game? He wasn't getting around Lin so much as just shooting over him.

Maybe next game McHale will have Beverley guard Carmelo. Yeah, but he's a good defender though...

 

Well, if MJ is asked to guard Shaq in the paint in any games, it would appear after the first quarter, the defensive assignment is not going to work, I am pretty sure Phil Jackson would switch the assignment.

Of course, Phil could still ask MJ to guard Shaq for the whole game, but you know it is not going to happen.

I vividly remember in the games of the NBA final between the Lakers and the 76ers, Iverson was unguardable by any Lakers players. Phil tried all the tricks on Iverson, and it did not work. In the end, Phil had to use a seldom-used player Tyronne Lue to guard Iverson, and it worked!

 

Happens just like Jeff Green punished the Heat for trying to miss a freebie on purpose.

 

Lol. Lin had a huge game scoring and passing, so I don't want to take anything away from him. But no other player in the NBA has people try so hard to deflect blame from him when he does less than good at something. It's just ridiculous sometimes. I'm not putting the loss on Lin, but it seems you're trying too hard here.

My take is sometimes guys like Anderson (or, say, Redick) get going and there's just not a whole hell of a lot you can do. What are the odds that Anderson ever has a game like this again? Anderson just got hot, and in doing so was able to take advantage of Lin's less-than-great one on one defense. Anderson has certainly been guarded by worse perimeter defenders than Lin numerous times, but he never went off like last night. Why? It's the NBA; these things happen. It's not really a condemnation of Lin or a confirmation that Anderson is great - it was just an outlier game.

Lin did what we needed him to last game. And that asking him to carry Harden's load on offense meant he would get more turnovers and be a bit more tired and flat footed on defense isn't surprising. Same would have happened to anyone else on our team asked to take over for Harden last night.

More concerning to me than any individual performance is our patented 4th quarter collapse we've started doing this year. I hope it's just due to players still learning each other, but I don't know.

 

Maybe we wouldn't have fourth quarter collapses if we had a deeper rotation, so players weren't so gassed.

 

they're all learning. it's not like every game is going to be perfect this year. In fact, I'd say that every single game will be imperfect with lots of faults. These guys aren't veterans. They're young players, and they're going to F up a lot. Hopefully they can learn and grow a lot. the worst thing is that they don't improve.

 

i would put the loss on lin. 8 turnovers. gonna lose all the time with Lin. and we all know it.

 

Lin needed to do everything for the team：scoring, game making, asstace, steal, rebound and blocking!
It could not be tolarated that he even took more than 2 minutes break in total.

 

The management of the players time is part of the reason for our classical collapse. As I pointed out in another thread, we have a sharp drop from 22 mpg to 12 mpg when it goes deeper to 9th man which is AB. This is given that the injury is already forcing Mchale to play him.

 

Has any team in nba history before ever had 3 3 pointers to tie or win in the last 10 seconds scored against it over a 4 game stretch

 

Quoted for truth

 

Lin played D to the best of his ability - but Anderson is too tall for Lin. TBH I think Garcia should have guarded him and Lin guard the PG instead. Garcia did a good job on defense last year when we needed him to play some defense. Even 19 pnts on Lin is a lot, there's ap roblem when a guy starts to drop points on him that easily. Coach did not change at all...christ.

 

Has anything good ever come off a McHale timeout?

Pathetic coach who can't run plays

 

In the NBA if your complaint is guys are "too tall" for you to guard, you are just always going to be complaining. Howard is 6'9" going against 7 footers every night and has been a defensive player of the year multiple times over. Tony Allen is around the same size as Lin. So is Shumpert. Too tall is about the worst excuse I've ever heard for playing perimeter defense in the NBA unless you are 4 foot 11.

Garcia..... really.... he's looked horrible on the defensive end this year. He really stepped it up last year in the playoffs but if you've followed him throughout his career its obvious that he's never going to be a guy you can count on defensively night after night. If he plays out of his mind in a big game... great, but don't count on it in the regular season.

Lin admitted his defensive problems last night in a post game interview. Even he knows its a problem just as Harden has acknowledged his defensive issues as well. These guy know they are bad.... not sure why fans can't come to grips with reality.

Knowing is a good first step... now its time for everyone to just shut up and get better.

 

get better or get traded.