Jeremy Lin and Beverley, who fits better with the team and James Harden

Fair enough. In restrospect, I should have said he "invited himself back into the game" instead of the more dramatic "checked himself back in". Basically Harden would get up and signal to McHale that he was going back in, and McHale would be like "oh okay". I guess that's respectful enough.

 

I think San Antonio fans wish Duncan checked himself back in

 

If McHale could play Harden 48 minutes a game without any consequences on Harden's health, I'm sure he would do it. However, that's not the case, and McHale has to rest Harden as much as possible when possible.

If Harden does ever request to check back into the game, the most likely reason is he feels he has had enough rest to return to the court in a game that is still competitive.

I highly doubt Harden would request to check back into the game if the game is a blow-out.

 

Can't wait for the Harden forced McHale to make Lin come off the bench conspiracy

 

please don't give them any ideas

 

It's about Daryl Morey, but the whole Adelman/Mchale Morey thing was Before Lin so...

 

I looked up at basketball-reference.com at the lineup you provided. Their total minutes for were 283 minutes, which accounted for about 4 min/game for the season, hardly cause enough impact (about +1.2 points/game) for the whole game.

This is a classic example of how someone can take a small section of stats and drive their point home. When they are on the court together, their stars aligned and the sum was greater than the parts. It hardly prove they are good players.

Basketball reference showed every one of their bench players (except Odem) had a negative on/off court ratings. Even though they are raw data, it's still a better indicator than a five-man lineup.

 

The more I think about Beverley's game, the more I think he is a smaller version of Shumpert. They both are:

- Defensive pests
- Great on ball defenders
- Fit well with a ball dominant PG
- Can knock down open 3's.
- Very athletic with hop

In that sense, Bev is more of a 2 than a 1. As in Harden's case, he is more of a 1 than 2.

What makes Bev more valuable than Shumpert? He is actually small enough and quick enough defending against PG's! Most of team's ball dominant players are PG's. They are also the initiators of their offense. By causing problems at the initial point of attack, Bev can wreck hovac into their offense. Bev might just be the perfect 2 who plays along with Harden or Lin.

 

... so why isn't Lin starting? Confused.

 

Actually, this is a classic example of taking stats out of context.

The 5-man line-up with the most number of minutes for the Clippers is 699.6 minutes, this line-up also unsurprisingly has the highest net points per 100. And this only amounts for 8 minutes a game over the course of 82 games.

The line-up with the 2nd most number of minutes is the one you just described, at 283 minutes.




Obviously, the Clippers use a various number of line-ups, but they all have high degree of success.

Where are you getting your numbers from?

 

When I said that someone takes a small sample to drive their point home, I was referring to the blog.

<PRE>
Player Split MP ORtg ORtg ORtg
Blake Griffin On Court 2598 114.8 107.3 +7.4
Off Court 1348 105.2 99.2 +6.1
On Off 66% +9.6 +8.1 +1.3

Chris Paul On Court 2335 116.5 106.7 +9.7
Off Court 1611 104.3 101.3 +3.0
On Off 59% +12.2 +5.4 +6.7

Jamal Crawford On Court 2232 110.3 102.9 +7.3
Off Court 1714 113.2 106.6 +6.6
On Off 57% -2.9 -3.7 +0.7

Matt Barnes On Court 2059 109.7 102.3 +7.4
Off Court 1887 113.5 107.0 +6.5
On Off 52% -3.8 -4.7 +0.9

DeAndre Jordan On Court 2009 115.7 107.7 +8.0
Off Court 1937 107.3 101.3 +6.0
On Off 51% +8.4 +6.4 +2.0
Caron Butler On Court 1880 114.1 107.3 +6.8
Off Court 2066 109.1 102.0 +7.1
On Off 48% +5.0 +5.3 -0.3

Lamar Odom On Court 1617 108.5 98.8 +9.7
Off Court 2329 113.6 108.5 +5.1
On Off 41% -5.1 -9.7 +4.6

Eric Bledsoe On Court 1553 106.1 101.5 +4.6
Off Court 2393 115.0 106.5 +8.5
On Off 39% -8.9 -5.0 -3.9

Willie Green On Court 1187 110.9 106.5 +4.4
Off Court 2759 111.8 103.7 +8.1
On Off 30% -0.9 +2.8 -3.7

Ronny Turiaf On Court 701 101.4 98.7 +2.7
Off Court 3245 113.7 105.8 +7.9
On Off 18% -12.3 -7.1 -5.2
Ryan Hollins On Court 664 105.3 101.5 +3.8
Off Court 3282 112.8 105.1 +7.6
On Off 17% -7.5 -3.6 -3.8

Grant Hill On Court 436 104.2 104.2 0.0
Off Court 3510 112.4 104.6 +7.8
On Off 11% -8.2 -0.4 -7.8

Chauncey Billups On Court 417 117.1 111.0 +6.1
Off Court 3529 110.9 103.8 +7.1
On Off 11% +6.2 +7.2 -1.0

Maalik Wayns On Court 37 101.4 97.2 +4.1
Off Court 3909 111.6 104.6 +7.0
On Off 1% -10.2 -7.4 -2.9

DaJuan Summers On Court 7 92.3 92.3 0.0
Off Court 3939 111.5 104.5 +7.0
On Off 0% -19.2 -12.2 -7.0
</PRE>
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAC/2013/on-off/

 

I think you have your numbers mixed up a bit. Barnes, Odom and Crawford all have positive on/off court rating.

 

I only went by the top five players who played the most minutes, and I stand corrected.

 

Nice one! It does mean something!

 

Absolutely. I psted this opinion a while ago. If Harden plays 36minutes, only 12 minutes wont overlap.

 

Synergy's overall Defence PPP last year was about equal for Lin and Beverley.Lin's was slightly better.Why are you insisting unequivacally that Beverley is a much better defender. Hollinger and Morey also said that Lin is. much better in the area of defense that people give him credit for.

 

Tell that to McHale. Personally I do not care who starts as long as Lin finishes and gets 30+ minutes.

 

Shumpert also guarded PG's too...

 

Good observation. However, the stats is based of 50% of Lin starts (4 out of 8 games), so it doesn't justify the topic on who should start. Good to know nevertheless.