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McHale wavers on pairing Howard, Asik in Rockets' lineup

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Htownballer38, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. Whoopy

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    Before we give up on the TT experiment, I like to see it with Lin as the starter. We did win a few games with him as the starter. Perhaps the ball just moves better and with Bev in there the team is just too defensive minded.
     
  2. hatwin1976

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    I hope we can. It is so frustrated to see the opponent team made an adjustment, while we just play like nothing happened and struggled. It happens quite some time already, McHale is definitely slow if not totally clueless.
     
  3. howo13579

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    Maybe because he molested homeless?
     
  4. Haymitch

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    We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think NBA GMs make dumb moves on a regular basis using shallow analysis, so sadly, yes, I do think it could make a difference between someone considering him or not.

    Plus, as is, his per 36 numbers are 9.9 ppg and 12.9 rpg, so while the Asik/Dwight pairing is hurting the team it's at least not hurting Asik's stats.
     
  5. ZNB

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    In all fairness its only been 8 games and they didnt have much time to work on it in the preseason. Things take time to either work or not. I personally think it doesnt work but i dont blame him for giving it some time to see if it can work.
     
  6. hatwin1976

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    NO. Please no. If lin starts with TT and we fail, we all know the failure will not because of TT. ;)
     
  7. count_dough-ku

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    Does McHale do volunteer work at homeless shelters or something? That might explain any animosity.
     
  8. DOLPHIN2k2

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    TT has not well so far but I am wondering if it is because they are not used correctly. We should be able to out rebound most teams offensively and defensively given TT's height advantage. So why has it not work so far? Perhaps the reason is that offensively, they are not working in sync with the guards to set picks to get them room. The guard should have more freedom to shoot mid range shots in the TT config.

    Defensively, DH and OA should be more spaced out. They do not need to be both under the basket to collect the rebound. One should box out while the other collect the rebound. I believe that this can work but it will take more guidance from the coach and more time for them to work things out and gel.
     
  9. MaxRider

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    just start Jones for tonight game
    he match up better against Thaddeus Young
    he can put Asik back in the lineup when we play Grizzlies, Pistons, Wizards
     
  10. caneks

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    yak to McHale.
     
  11. Nook

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    I never thought the twin tower experiment would work in extended minutes due to spacing issues, and the evolution of the power forward position the last 10 years.

    Having said that, I do not mind McHale experimenting with it longer if he feels it can be beneficial. No one else has really seperated themselves at the 4 spot.

    The season is very young and I am not nearly as concerned with how the Rockets are playing in November, as I am in April.

    I suspect that Asik and Lin or Jones will be dealt for an top 10 power forward or point guard if one becomes available anyway.
     
  12. hatwin1976

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    Maybe it is because our 4 is slower, no middle range shoot and our guards could not easily get to the paint without knocking into our own guys?
     
  13. Amel

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    that pair will not work 90% of the time...there will be certain games where we can use them both at the same time, until then Asik needs to sit his ass down and be grateful to play for this team.
     
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    TT will work if they get out and run after the defensive rebound, but you need a PG who will push the pace and get easy buckets. The half-court offense with TT doesn't work:

    1) D12 isn't a dominant post player
    2) Asik is a non-factor
    3) Guards can't penetrate because lanes are clogged
    4) 3 pt shooters aren't open on kickouts b/c D12 doesn't command a double team and guards can't penetrate

    My solution:
    1) Start Lin with TT to try and get some fast break points, OR
    2) Start Casspi or Jones to spread the floor a little more.

    I prefer 2. Though, 1 would be interesting b/c I'd love to see a JH/DH pnr on the left side of the floor, coupled with a JL/OA pnr on the right side of the floor.
     
  15. DOLPHIN2k2

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    I think DH can compete with most 4's in speed and power so that is not really a good reason.

    The main reason come down to the team not shooting mid range in the TT config. We should experiment with allowing more mid ranges with TT. They have an advantage at getting the rebound or a put back anyway.
     
  16. howo13579

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    If McHale plays Poker, he would never fold with 2 and 3 even when he kept on losing because he remembers 200 hands ago his 2 and 3 got him a full house.
     
  17. dobro1229

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    He's averaging more minutes this year so far than last and his minutes are being staggered with Hardens... obviously helping his game by getting him more usage offensively..... why does this have anything to do with the success of the TT??..... he's just another player that NEEDS to get in the already super-crowded paint to be successful.... are we trying to make life more difficult for Jeremy now???
     
  18. Whoopy

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    Because the TT problem is that we are falling behind too quickly in the first quarter. That's when we need ball movement the most.
     
  19. TheBigFive

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    Who cares if it makes his life more difficult. Even if it decreases his efficiency, isn't the efficiency of the team that matters?

    Defensively we don't lose much, and offensively we gain by having another scorer and shot creator, another playmaker, a superior interior passer, and a more dangerous transition player.

    Of course, McHale will try anything that doesn't involve inserting Lin into the starting lineup. He would rather break up TT than insert Lin.
     
  20. dobro1229

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    If you're a Lin fan you should absolutely HATE the idea of him playing alongside a twin tower lineup. He's an attacking player....attacking guard TT lineup = no space... no attack... no stats.

    Also there is a big man(Asik) the defense isn't guarding and is allowing them to have an additional man help out rotating on shooters and Dwight in the post.... meaning... no open shots on the perimeter either.
     

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