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Should we look to Jeremy Lin to be our closer as opposed to James Harden?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by swyyyguy, Nov 11, 2013.

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Should Jeremy Lin be our closer instead of James Harden?

  1. Yes, Harden makes me soften.

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  2. No, Beardsanity > Linsanity.

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  1. MichaelG281713

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    Lame ass trolls. You need guys to stop trying to have sex with Lin. Acting like some ****.
     
  2. Htownballer38

    Htownballer38 Member

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    He is battling some injuries right now.

    Now to answer your question, both players could close on any given night. It's shouldn't be solely on Hardens shoulders to be the closer. It should be predicated upon who has the hot hand during that time.
     
  3. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Who err got de hot handz
     
  4. TheBornLoser

    TheBornLoser Contributing Member

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    Well, like many Clutchfans posters with high reputation say.... Jeremy Lin is a joke and he has to go!
     
  5. Apache

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    If Jeremy is the closer , it will hurt Haren ego.
     
  6. psingh34

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    exactly right, lin is not at all TO prone, he never leaves his feet with nowhere to go .. also your theory is totally supported by the fact that lin had 0 assists and harden had 10... lin clearly a better distributor and also totally careful with the ball .. great point
     
  7. psingh34

    psingh34 Member

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    closer doesnt mean who will take the last shot, it means who will have the ball in their hands during closing minutes of the game. Rockets did not win that game until harden took over in the second overtime. Lin was having his second best game as a rocket and still the rockets could nto put them away. It was only after harden took over in the 2ot while sick and hurt that the rockets won ..
     
  8. kfmfe04

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    if Lin gets the last touch, there is still a good chance Harden will get it back, especially if defense collapses on Lin
     
  9. C. Orientalis

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    lin also had 5 pts in that 2nd OT on 2/2 shooting. Harden was good in the 4th, 1st and 2nd OT, but had quite a bit of TO's and bad iso plays. It could be argued that we couldve won it earlier if not for him, and we wouldnt have been able to push it to the OT's without Lin.
     
  10. Morlock O

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    sorry I disagree, not trying to put down harden but that is not what I saw last game... harden had a good string of offensive plays in the 2nd OT yes but it was not like he intentionally turned it on during the 2nd OT... he has been trying to turn it on since 4th->1OT->2OT... only had got it going on 2OT...

    Lin was having the best game as a rocket and yet he was only taking 2-3 shots on 4th -> 1OT -> 2OT... so who has the ball all the time? who ISO the whole 4th quarter? who shot the final shot while being guarded by 3 players in the 4th?
     
  11. raskol

    raskol Contributing Member

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    McHale??
     
  12. imaginedragons

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    i'd say all of them should play and thrive off each other. even lebron as the cleveland closer could not win a ring, only winning it when he had Bosh and Wade to take some of the pressure off him.

    the presence of Harden as a proven offensive threat makes it harder for the defense to just focus on, say, Lin only, or Howard only for that matter. Likewise, having better offensive guys around him makes things a bit easier for Harden than if he were playing with guys who weren't as reliable on offense. trusting each other more is the key and way more important than establishing any single guy as the closer.
     
  13. timyeung

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    Interesting post from another forum for those people who look at stats:

     
  14. TheDr34m

    TheDr34m Contributing Member

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    I love the thread it will make it easier to identify LOF's. Good Job OP!

    Repped!
     
  15. timyeung

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    It also identifies the LOHs.
    Sorry if the use of stats bothers you.
     
  16. TheDr34m

    TheDr34m Contributing Member

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    I am rockets only fan. I am just sick of Lin posts.

    Lin had a great game he scored 31 points we couldn't have won the game with without him.

    Harden does that in his sleep and Harden is playing horribly through the first 8games for the most part.

    Point is LOF's get carried away.
     
  17. C. Orientalis

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    How CLUTCH Is Jeremy Lin?

    It's actually easy to show how Clutch JLin is using the new NBA Player Clutch Stats (Last 5Min, Ahead/Behind with 5pts Differential) by measuring the TS% (True Shooting %).

    According to 2013-2014 NBA Clutch Stats, JLin is currently ranked 15th in TS% (72%) out of 94 qualified players with a min of 4 games and 2 FGA.

    This is higher than the other Big 3 (Harden #36 at 54%, Howard #51 at 42%, Parsons #75 at 33%)

    Oh, too few sample size with only 4 games you said?

    JLin was also ranked #13 with TS 64.9% with using the same stats in 2012-2013 with a minimum of 30 games!

    Parsons (#30) and Harden (#33) followed with TS 58%

    Rank Player TS%
    13 Jeremy Lin (HOU) 64.90%
    30 Chandler Parsons (HOU) 58.60%
    33 James Harden (HOU) 58.30%
    104 Carlos Delfino (HOU) 42.70%
    115 Omer Asik (HOU) 35.20%

    So is Jeremy CLUTCH? NBA Player Clutch Stats says so.

    This is what I understand as well, Jeremy gas been historically a very clutch player. It should be whoever has the hot hand that takes that last shot(s),
     
  18. leebigez

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    I said what? Who saidvthe rockets have the best starting 5 in the league? Im willing to bet mchale would trust goran more than lin. If given the choice, every player on this team know goran is a better player and a bigger performer late in games. Or sre we to ignore how bad lin was in the playoffs before his injury?
     
  19. Morlock O

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    Sample size of 1 game...
     
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    Are people seriously saying Lin can't do **** without someone taking all the defenses attention?

    Lin has so many faults yet thats the one people go after?

    cant dribble/one speed/cascadingretardturnovers/icouldkeepdribblingbutnahimajumpandthrowtheballaway

    "Can't score without a superstar"

    Is this guy joking? Lins best basketball has come WITHOUT another dominant offensive option.

    Where the fk were you when he was ballin with Fields, Shump and Jared 'oh****alayup' Jeffries, and basically every time Hardens been out.

    Say what you want about Lin's weaknesses, say what you want about Lins fans, but for you to actually say he cant do crap without Harden just exposes you as a r****d.
     

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