Very few people are sold on Obamacare: enrollments pathetically low

Part of the problem or part of the solution

 

Bigtexxx since you are smartest and richest person on this board what would you do instead of obamacare?

 

You have to look at the size of the problem and the entrenched interests involved. A radical makeover of our health care system, for example single payer, was and still is impossible given where our society is at. At the same time the problems with the health care system prior to ACA were huge, and many are still there. An incremental approach is necessary. My hope is that the ACA warts and all will be a stepping stone to even bigger change.

 

Very few people are sold on Obamacare: enrollments pathetically low

Because old people get Medicare?

How's that sign-up, like 100%

 

with what?

 

now you're just repeating this, incapable of offering anything else?

nuff said

 

The solution was a bigger problem. ACA was done for the sake of change...much like everything else in the last 5 years.

 

Great idea, now what the hell do you mean by that?

 

If you don't do anything medical costs will continue to skyrocket. So what exactly is your solution?

 

And that would be? You don't know do you?

I think you are more interested in attacking the president than coming up with a real solution.

 

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

- Theodore Roosevelt

 

...let's pass a healthcare bill:

to stimulate the economy!



fyi: for those spouting about change for change---about 60%+ of personal bankruptcies are caused in some part by medical debt, American spends the most per capita and gets some of the most inefficient health outcomes.

good to see Obamacare changing the posts: even diehard skeptics have conceded the need to reform healthcare. Could single-payer be too far off?

 

While there are some big problems with the rollout I don't see how the solution is worse than the previous problem. Wile a few million policies have been cancelled I would like to see how that compares to the amount of people who have insurance now when previously they would've been denied for pre-existing conditions and those under 26 who wouldn't have been able to stay on their parents policies. Those two things are not directly tied to the exchanges and are almost universally supported.

 

Enrollments are low on healthcare.gov because the website sucks - not because people aren't interested. To see that, you just have to look at the state websites that do work. Kentucky has had 40,000+ signups already - as much or more than healthcare.gov - thanks to a fantastic and well-built website. When given the opportunity, people are signing up. The problem appears more technical and messaging than demand-driven.

 

How many of those 40K are medicaid?

 

The majority - but that was intended (even more so than we'll actually see since a bunch of states opted out). The poor that weren't eligible are the ones that were expected to have the highest demand for health care because they are the ones that were most unable to afford it. Then the next big group are the people who really wanted health care but were denied due to pre-existing conditions or other reasons. The last group to sign up will be those that didn't have health care because it was not a priority.

Keep in mind that none of these policies even take effect for another 2 months, so only people who are really, really excited about getting health care are going to be signing up already. And if you're not eligible for subsidies, you can just as easily sign up through EHealthInsurance.com or whatever other site - numbers that won't show up in the enrollment numbers but do have people getting health care that maybe couldn't before. There's also no reason to sign up and pay a month's worth of premiums for something you can't use for a few months anyway.

 

Amazing quote! Repped!

Far too many feel confident taking pot shots without actually offering up solutions.