Very few people are sold on Obamacare: enrollments pathetically low

Yes he did

Perhaps you forget the 160 republican amendments that were accepted in ACA?

 

If you think Obama could've gotten single payer passed I have some Texans Superbowl tickets to sell you. Considering that they couldn't even get a public option passed in the final bill there is no way single payer would pass. The problem wasn't just Republican opposition but many Democrats would've resisted it. Even with a 60 vote majority it would just take one or two Democrat defections to stop passage.

 

yeah laughable that republicans are slow readers. That's classic. Thanks for the laugh.

Should have made it scratch and sniff with pictures.

OWNED AGAIN

 

I have already considered and accepted the logic in the statements provided and have found your lack of logic striking, as usual.

 

Part of the problem or part of the solution

 

You don't think health care reform is a legitimate need in this country?

 

Just a warning

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/11/who-counts-as-an-obamacare-enrollee-the-obama-administration-settles-on-a-definition/?print=1

 

Its sad that democrats would vote against it. If pretty much every First world country has it and their Healthcare costs much less than ours why would we not try to borrow what is working there.

 

Because there are huge institutional forces fighting against it and they influence Democrats as well as Republicans.

 

It does need significant reform. ACA did very little to reform the cost issue that is the major problem with healthcare. Forcing to people to pay for an excessively expensive product wasn't the answer. However, the exchanges were a step in the right direction.

 

Agreed to an extent, but if it's a need, you have to start somewhere, and I would say not only is the jury still out on what it will do to costs in general, but that it would be hard upon formulating the plan to know how "expensive the product" would be upon it's commencement considering the scope of all this.

I am skeptical in general, but I do think something needs to improve with the system we have, and I hope it really is a step in the right direction. It's hard to tell at this point what the real impact/benefit might be in the long run.

 

For about two months I believe.

 

I say there will not be many enrollments. Most people will just be taxed. I think this will mean the hysteria surrounding the doubling of premiums is overblown since there won't be enough enrollments to make it happen.

 

If people don't enroll the premiums will explode. Only the sick and the poor who get subsidies will buy the plan and the insurance companies will jack the rates up big time in order to make up for it.

They still have to comply with the 80/20 rule (80% of premium dollars go directly to claims) but if the system gets flooded with the sick without offsetting healthy people, the rates will balloon.

 

Obviously I do not understand. If people are not on a health insurance's plan, the health insurance must raise their premiums? I do not get this.

 

There are people on health insurance right now. Effective 1-1 they can no longer rate people for health conditions. There are definitely going to be sick people buying into the system (outside of the exchanges because they make too much money) not to mention the people who are ALREADY on health insurance plans that had the prices rated up.

If new HEALTHY customers are not added to the pool, the rates are going to explode in a dramatic way for people who already have insurance.