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Republican Candidates for 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by chrispbrown, May 17, 2013.

  1. Commodore

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    I'd vote for Texas secession in a heartbeat.
     
  2. Baba Booey

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    What a great American you are.
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    You're libertarian, so we know you'd already repeal any integration or drug laws, and abolish the education system.

    Would you vote for the tri-lateral naval and land war and ethnic cleansing that would follow right afterwards, or did your suburban, white male fantasy preclude you from thinking that far ahead?
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    None of them. Hillary is a Yale-educated attorney with diplomatic experience, who will live in the most commercially and diplomatically engaged city on the planet; where her husband, adult daughter and forthcoming grandchildren. She will get every opportunity to enrich or engage herself intellectually, economically and politically; while staying with her husband and being within a town car's distance of her extended family. She will not give that up to spend a year flying around the country giving canned speeches or eating ****ty food in front of news cameras at crappy small businesses in flyover towns.

    She's Nixon in the sixties: but with enough self-esteem and emotional balance to appreciate and enjoy having a cool, well-paying job in the best city in the world.
     
  5. mc mark

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    Christie doesn't stand a chance if he appoints a democrat.

    Drudge Headline

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    WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?
     
  6. Major

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    He doesn't stand a chance regardless - and I think he knows that. Lots of high-profile Dems are donating to his re-election campaign. He's hanging out with Obama again. etc. I think he's accepted that New Jersey is his place, at least for the near future.
     
  7. Rashmon

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    I agree that the GOP base would never allow Christie out of the primaries, but I do not rule out Christie jumping ship and running as an independent, or even a Dem.
     
  8. bobmarley

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    George Soros Donates To RINO Chris Christie’s Re-Election Campaign…

    All that snuggling up to Obama is paying off.

    TRENTON — Gov. Chris Christie is cashing in donations from top Democratic fundraisers and other traditionally liberal donors across the country, even nabbing the support of a handful of rainmakers aligned with President Obama and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a Star-Ledger review of state and federal records shows.

    The checks are flying into the Republican governor’s war chest from all sorts of unlikely places — the hedge fund run by liberal billionaire George Soros, for example, and the politically progressive halls of the University of California, Berkeley.

    The nascent support from Democratic donors is an early sign of Christie’s fundraising prowess in a potential run for the White House in 2016, experts and Democratic donors said, and dovetails with recent polls showing him gaining popularity nationally among Democrats and independents.

    Christie’s partnership with New Jersey Democratic leaders and his warm relationship with Obama after Hurricane Sandy could be enticing donors who don’t often give to GOP candidates, even if they are closer ideologically to Democrat Barbara Buono, Christie’s lesser-known challenger, political scientists and Democratic fundraisers say.

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/major_democratic_donors_flock.html
     
  9. mc mark

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  10. Dairy Ashford

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    Christie is a perfectly viable Republican nominee. He doesn't have to pass their litmus tests, just oppose or pledge to roll back Obama's legislative gains in the name of fiscal or constitutional restraint. Furthermore, politicians are more prone to compromise on their liberal stances because they don't demographically identify with the affected constituents. After Fritz McCain and Mitt Dukakis, Republicans will gladly take a moderate to win back the White House; whereas Democrats appear to be taking the Humphrey/Gore approach and wanting to promote to the next in line.
     
  11. mc mark

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    pouhe Christie has implemented ACA in New Jersey. How could he campaign against it?
     
  12. Refman

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    Just because you comply with something doesn't mean that you think it is the best solution. Christie could *gasp* propose an alternative. I know...it is something that most Republicans have been unwilling to do, but Christie is a different kind of guy.

    I really like him...which means he won't win the nomination.
     
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    The 2016 GOP ticket will be:

    Chris Christie
    Susanna Martinez

    You heard it here first.
     
  14. Malcolm

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    it will be Christie, because how he reacted whn his state needed him too going agaist what the extrme of his party wanted. Conservaetives usually vote the guy they believe most likely to win & not the guy who is extremly to the right.
     
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    Is she considered a Tea Party sympathizer and hard-core conservative? Agreed Christie will probably choose a woman if Hillary is the opponent but it will have to be someone adored by "the base".

    mcmark, you are wrong. Christie is not Rudy Giuliani, who was never anything more than a complete farce as a GOP candidate IMO.
     
  16. mc mark

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    I hope I am. But it's amazing all of the wingnut push back we're seeing with Christie's win.

    witness

    Chris Christie Faces Wrath Of Tea Partiers Who Don't Think He's Conservative Enough To Win In 2016

    "We're so frustrated with all this Christie talk we can’t see straight," Scott Hofstra, an active Tea Party member from Vine Grove, Ky., told the New York Times. "He's no more conservative than [Democrat and Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid."

    Chuck Henderson, a Tea Party member from Manhattan, Kan., voiced similar concerns.

    "He won his re-election, bully for him, but for him to make the jump up the next rung of the ladder, well, he's not going to find any support from the people I mix with," Henderson told the New York Times.
     
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  17. justtxyank

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    Are you saying that Hillary won't run?

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    Egomaniacs gonna egomaniac.
     
  18. Dairy Ashford

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    I would bet she doesn't. She had the best job in the Executive branch and would have stayed there if she really wanted to keep working in government. Her family, social and intellectual or professional interests could all be easily met in a town like New York. Gore didn't run again and he was a lifelong legislator who came a lot closer than she did.
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Gore didn't run again because he lost a national election. Hillary didn't. Plenty of people who don't win the primary ultimately run again. In fact, Al Gore HIMSELF ran for president twice, losing in the primaries in the 1980s.

    Once you lose the actual presidential race, it's hard to come back and get the loser stench off of you. Not to mention you tend to be older at that point and worn out.

    Hillary isn't going to run for president to satisfy her intellectual, social or professional interests, she's going to run for president to satisfy her ego. There is nothing she can do in New York that is the equivalent of being elected by the American people to be the leader of the free world.
     
  20. Major

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    This is true traditionally, but I would argue 2012 showed that might be changing. The primary participants did everything they could to not nominate Romney, but there were just too many unelectable challengers that were splitting the vote. If Newt/Cain/Bachmann/Perry/Santorum consolidated early on to one candidate, Romney wouldn't have made it - he won by skimming 30% of the electorate all the time.

    Realistically, that may happen again with Rubio/Cruz/Jindal/Santorum/etc, but I don't think Christie will dominate the primaries - there will need to be an element of fortunate circumstances for him to come out of it. Tea Parties are just too insane.
     

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