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Should we look to Jeremy Lin to be our closer as opposed to James Harden?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by swyyyguy, Nov 11, 2013.

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Should Jeremy Lin be our closer instead of James Harden?

  1. Yes, Harden makes me soften.

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  2. No, Beardsanity > Linsanity.

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Lin is finally play well besides Harden and has his role down.

    What is it? To help take pressure off Harden by burning defenses for overplaying him. That's exactly what Lin did - hit 3's and penetrate to the basket.

    Didn't try to create too much, just took advantage of opportunities.

    By the way - the box score shows lin with 0 assists, but I saw him get a pass to Harden for a 3 pointer - wonder why Lin didn't get the assist.
     
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  2. Reach

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    This isn't fair to Jeremy in the least. At the rate he's going at now (and an elite OKC Hardenesque 66% TS), Lin could easily score 20+ ppg on good efficiency starting tomorrow night if used as the primary option. I don't think you could reasonably deny that.
     
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    If he's a troll or a r****d, why even respond?
     
  4. howo13579

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    I don't anyone thinks Lin should have the last shot. Problem for Harden is that he doesn't create opportunities during crunch time. He can be great breaking down defense like tonight's game but he sucks at it with final shots. I don't know the stats but he's probably like 5% when closing out qtrs. I might be exaggerating but wouldn't be surprised if the real number is close to what I have guessed.

    Again, "insert name" open > Harden with 3 defenders in his face
    If you can't see that you probably don't watch much basketball.
     
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  5. lid1013

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    Bottom line. Harden is the best scorer on the team. Naturally he should take the shots down the stretch. I don't think anyone is arguing over this. However if he is going to be selfish and ignore open teamates to jack up terrible contested shots than yea that's a problem. If he takes good quality shots no one would be complaining. But the way he plays down the stretch makes me think he is too eager to show he's a star and that causes some selfish play.
     
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    Because I'm a sick individual and am entertained by easy opponents in a debate.
     
  7. iconoclastic

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    Which NBA team isn't going to scout a player putting up 25 points and leading a terrible team to win after win as the number one offensive threat on the team, no matter where he came from? There was plenty of college/DLeague/summer league/preseason tape as well. His numbers only dropped after Melo came back from injury and Lin was no longer the primary option and highest usage on his team. As for the no tape excuse, how come other unscouted players aren't scoring the most total points by a single player in his first five starts or recording at least 20 points and seven assists in each of his first five NBA starts, while all the other names on those lists are Hall-of-Famers and All-Stars?
     
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    Bingo! (Not a Clippers announcer!)
     
  9. hardenisaboss

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    not at 66%. If he had his own team, probably like a 19ppg, 7apg, 3rp 42%, 35%, 55 TS%. Note this will be when the defense is keyed on him, whereas on the Rockets, the defense first looks at Harden, then Parsons, then Dwight and then Lin
     
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    This, I think tonight showed both sides of Harden. He is actually perfectly capable to breaking down the defense and passing to a open team mate. The question is, will he do that consistently, cuz he still seemed really stubborn with his iso's in a lot of plays tonight.
     
  11. hardenisaboss

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    today he didn't take any dumb shots, which was good. Most of the dumb shots we might be remembering are the ones with the clock running down really fast and it was just to get a shot up
     
  12. lid1013

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    THIS. Lin would average from 18-19 pts to around 7-9 assists a game.
     
  13. hardenisaboss

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    we all agree on this, but the team will be mediocre, it is better for Lin's career to be on the rockets, avg less, but win more
     
  14. King901

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    If people would show consistency Harden would probably be better in situations like that. Just like Lin isn't perfect, Harden isn't either.
     
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    haren has a bad shooting night and he still want to get the last shot and iso , selfish
     
  16. hardenisaboss

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    Lin was isoing a lot more so chill. you don't get 31 points and 0 ast without having the balls in your hands
     
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    I think alot of it has to the with the way it 'looks' when Jeremy and James 'isolate'. typically when people get mad about james 'isoing' hes flat out going 1v1 turbo mode. With Lin its more get a high pick and try and run through the basket.

    James is our best player. he should be using his skills and taking the last shot, not forcing it though.
     
  18. davidio840

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    Lol teams aren't watching Lin playing in the Dleague or college to prepare for a game. It was the system he was in which allowed him to do that for 5 games. Five games isn't anything to base a career off of. Especially a HOF career. Like I said, and if you know anything about basketball, you should know; playoffs are where you make a name for yourself. What happened to Lin when he played Miami? He got embarrassed. Stop hiding behind 5 games and some TS% to prove your point.
     
  19. hardenisaboss

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    THIS. don't force, let it come to you
     
  20. Reach

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    Can we go even one night without insulting Harden?
     

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