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What Would Adelman do with this Team?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketsjudoka, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. conquistador#11

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    I miss the fuhrer. He would make the players believe in the system and not alter his beliefs of unity just because he has a bearded superstar.

    a united fuhrer alliance for all.
     
  2. Nook

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    Well Knowing Adelman, Beverley never would have gotten much time, so I suspect he would be on the bench. Most likely Lin wouldn't be on the team, as he would have done everything possible to keep Dragic on the Rockets.

    Harden may never have been traded for, as Adelman liked to keep the players he already had.

    I am sure Bud and possible Patterson would still be on the team.

    Most likely the Rockets would go 46-36 and the team would lose in 6 games in the first round.

    As far as Minnesota "rising", Adelman is certainly a part of that, but having a more healthy and talented team is a big part of it too. They have the best power forward in the NBA; an elite passer at PG; a SG that can score (and do nothing else); a very good overall player in Brewer; and a top 5-10 center in Pekovic. That isn't NBA championship calibur, but it is a very good concentration of talent. Like many of Adelman's past teams, I suspect they will surprise some people before losing to a more talented team in the playoffs.
     
  3. TheBornLoser

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    I actually do. I really really liked the players in the Adelman years (Battier, Chuck, Scola, Landry, Brooks, and several others), and that was the second time I closely followed the Rockets (after the Barkley era).

    Adelman had a lot of bad luck with injuries to the roster during his time in Houston. Other than that, he made a team lacking talent an over-performer, and more importantly, a scrappy, gritty team that punched above its weight.

    The likelihood of this team losing to the Lakers several days ago had it been coached by him would have been less than 1%. This team punches way below its weight at times.
     
  4. CONAN 888

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    He would kill with this roster. His Min team put up a 47 spot on the Fakers last night. Rubio had a trip double so Lin could be successful. Harden would do great in the Corner offense. He wouldn't have to dribble he could save his energy come off that down screen in the short corner and catch and shoot as oppose to iso shoot. Howard would be fine. RA got production out of Chuck Hayes he could get some out of D12 running the princeton low post sets.
    The difference between Rick the Ruler and Mch is that RA got his boys in check and a system up there in Min. As opposed to Mch with to little structure in the free flow which ends up in a iso.
    If we still had RA we wouldn't have lost to the Fakers and our offense would be beautiful.
    Curious to see what the wolves do against the clips tonight.
    should be a scoring fest. gonna take the over or tease them down and take the over
     
  5. Pumpedupkicks

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    Ha. I remember all the talk of a "democratic" offense/shooting last summer. Then the beard came and all the talk went out the window, understandably so in that you put the ball in your best player's hands. But to never make him accountable when the ball got "sticky" and then complain about it after every game. Welp.

    I remember watching the Sac King's WCF championship series against the Lakers and I bet Adelman would get just as much respect as Doc Rivers today if the refs didn't hijack that series and gave it to the Lakers. He and the Kings would've gone on to the NBA Finals and the rest is history.
     
  6. acsorelle4

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    Adelman would do well, but still find ways to infuriate me with his dysfunctional late-game matchups. But I'd rather b**** about that, than b**** about everything.
     
  7. conquistador#11

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    To think the fuhrer never wanted to upgrade over the players we had is fubar and only adds up to your own agenda. What did Mchale say about our bench players his first year? the clown squad? what did the fuhrer say when we first got T-will and thabeet, " I don't know what I'm supposed to do with them.
    It wasn't his fault that yao was killed in action in the playoffs nor did he appreciate that during yao's attempted comeback he had to play him for designated 5 minute stretches, as if that was going to stop the end of yao.


    and another thing, what a great coach like Rick does is he gets everyone to buy in and he is also able to implement the talents of those around him to play as ONE.

    Before LOFers there were YOFers, and they believed that providing asylum to the fuhrer would relegate yao to a vlade divac role, spot up shooting from the top of the key. Instead, we all got to see a more complete yao show casing his passing and still providing glorious post game. that's what great coaches do, adjust and bring out the best out of everyone.
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    R.I. P big yao


    to the fallen =(
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    You might be right at Lin but I don't think Adelman would've passed up on Harden. While he loves Martin I pretty sure he recognizes that Harden is a better player.
    Those might be possible.

    Except you have to consider that Love and Pekovic played on the T-Wolves prior to Adelman and the team is drastically better than then. Also consider how Adelman kept Rockets and T-Wolves teams decimated by injuries at least competitive. As another poster noted you had Chuck Hayes playing center yet still winning games. Also consider how Adelman took the Rockets in 2009 to 7 in the second round after losing both Mutumbo and Yao.
     
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    those 2 plays >
     
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    I know harden wouldn't be isoing so much under adelman thats for sure
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Same with me. That 2009 team was my favorite Rockets' team since the 1995 Championship team, and not just because they were the first to get past the first round since 1997. They were just fun to watch and a collection of great personalities. Even Artest's craziness just added to it all.
     
  12. sammy

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    Adelman is clearly the better coach but he interferes in roster management too much for my liking.
     
  13. PuzzledFan

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    Yeah, imagine if we had had McHale when Parsons or Beverley, or for that matter Smith or Morris were rookies. When Patterson was in his second year and so, essentially, was Lin. When Asik was in his third year, Harden and Douglas in their fourth . . . Of course, that may not be fair. Harden was already 23 years old when he got the starting job, and we couldn't very well not start him. Nevertheless, Harden was 23, he doesn't count. Motiejunas is only 23! Jones is only 22! No amount of perceived ability could validate the blatant age discrimination in playing people like Parsons, Beverley, Morris, Smith, Lin, and Harden in front of them. All we ever see on the floor are those old fellas. And who are the first people to be substituted in? Omri Casspi and Jeremy Lin. 25 years old, each one!
     
  14. Nook

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    How did Adelman feel about Morey's efforts to clear cap space to make a run at signing an elite player? How did Adelman feel about Morey's trades to collect assets to trade for an elite player?

    Adelman went to war with HIS guys, be it Aaron Brooks or Bud or others. He did not really like change and the players he wanted did not exactly do well either. So yes, it is fair to say that Adelman didn't really want "change".

    I don't blame Adelman for the down fall of Yao or T-Mac (although if Harden fails I am sure McHale will get the blame).

    Adelman has been a coach for 30 years in the NBA and has zero titles. I would not call him "great", but rather "good".
     
  15. Akim523

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    We would still have Kevin Martin
     
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    He would install motion offense.. put monty in the high post.. bench asik... hard would have to catch and shoot some more and Lin would be benched.
     
  17. Captain Hook

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    I don't know how Adelman would play with this team because of him playing a big man in the high post and we don't have the quality big man to do so....
     
  18. Amiga

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    Adelman seems to bring the best out of his player. His system is one that adapts to the players he has.

    McHale is a rookie compare to Adelman. Unfortunately, he seems to bring mediocre out of his players with the way he handle himself, rotation, minutes, end game situation, just a host of weird things. He seems to roll the dice in weird ways. I don't know, but I don't have a lot of confident in him. Same mistakes repeated the last few years.
     
  19. KingLeoric

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    Championships
     
  20. conquistador#11

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    the anti fuhrers will say: well he couldn't be the talented line up of

    Shaq,Donaghy, Crawford and kobe!:grin:
     

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